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I know from changing set-ups with my H100 that it takes more than a grain of rice with the H series coolers. You should try to spread it evenly just like it was on there when it was new. I re-seated my H100 3 times using grain of rice, pea size blob etc and temps were horrible.

I then thought, let me put that thick spread like when it was stock paste (good temps) and that was the ticket.
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Alright, I just came home and used some thermal compound on the cpu, Just a rice grain drop. mounted the H80 ontop and made sure to press firmly when i mounted it before i bolted it down. Fire up the computer and, I'm using asus suite to read sensors, and realtemp as well. real temp shows 105c across all 4 cores, while asus shows 80c at full load. Prime95 stopped working the second core due to a hardware failure on one of it's test, I think my CPU is bad. thoughts?

I would question the variable of you mounting it frown.gif

I wouldn't bet money that your process is immaculate.
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It's also fishy that asus and real temp have such a large variance in temps. I can definately tell you that you did not hit 105ºC. The cpu will start to throttle at 98º and it will shut down at 105º. Are you still running at stock speed, or did u overclock again?
 
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post #24 of 34
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It's also fishy that asus and real temp have such a large variance in temps. I can definately tell you that you did not hit 105ºC. The cpu will start to throttle at 98º and it will shut down at 105º. Are you still running at stock speed, or did u overclock again?

Asus & real temp are different, asus reports the cpu package temp & realtemp uses a formula to calculate the core temps. I have seen at least 1 screenshot with realtemp reading 105°, so the guy's PC did not shut down at that temperature (I imagine it must have been pretty close though).
    
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post #25 of 34
105C is the throttling temperature, not the shutdown temperature. Intel CPUs use a shut down temperature (THERMTRIP) approximately 25C beyond the throttling temperature so they are not supposed to shut down until 130C.

The sensor that Asus is reading is not the CPU Package temperature and the data coming from that sensor is pretty much useless information. Intel uses the peak core temperature to control thermal throttling and thermal shutdown. That is the data that RealTemp reports. Monitoring any other temperature data is a waste of time.

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Asus & real temp are different, asus reports the cpu package temp & realtemp uses a formula to calculate the core temps. I have seen at least 1 screenshot with realtemp reading 105°, so the guy's PC did not shut down at that temperature (I imagine it must have been pretty close though).

Yeah, but I think 1 or both are wrong in the OP's case. I don't think the core temps should be 25ºC higher than the package temp. I would trust the asus temp, and 80ºC is not really that high for an ivy with a huge overclock especially since the TIM hasn't had time to break in. It would be nice to see some screen shots of the voltage and temps.
 
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Delid this thing and get it over with.
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post #28 of 34
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I don't think the core temps should be 25ºC higher than the package temp.

That's the whole reason that Intel started placing temperature sensors on the hottest spots on the core. There really are some huge temperature gradients on a fully loaded CPU. Intel stopped using the CPU temperature sensor to control their CPUs when they buried the Pentium IV. Asus needs to start reporting the peak core temperature in their monitoring software but I guess they don't want to scare their customers.

If a CPU reaches the Intel specified thermal throttling temperature, even for only a millisecond, RealTemp will report this in the Thermal Status area. If it shows the word LOG instead of OK then that means that your CPU was throttling. If it shows the word HOT then that means the CPU is currently throttling. Intel CPUs throttle so rapidly that it usually takes some prolonged overheating before the word HOT will appear.

Here's an example of a throttling Core 2 CPU.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/276/hote8400fw5.png

All I had to do was disconnect the CPU fan while running some Prime95 Small FFTs and sure enough, it started to throttle. smile.gif
It continued to throttle but it also continued to run 100% reliably for 3 hours until I got bored and stopped the test. You can trust what RealTemp is saying.
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Here's a comparison.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2300/realtempaisuite.png

While running Prime95 on a mildly overclocked i5-3570K with the OEM heatsink and fan, AI Suite is reporting a CPU temperature of 69C while the peak core temperature or CPU Package temperature as Intel calls it is reporting 90C. The CPU temperature sensor that AI Suite reports data from is so far away from the action that it's not even funny. It might as well be reporting what the temperature is out in the backyard. At least that information might be useful.
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