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post #11 of 38
yea max, it glithches sometime when you choose max all you have to do is click very high and than change it back to max and it should work.
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also not only are those temps good but that voltage is good too it takes me 1.260 to be 100% stable at 4.5 and puts me close to 90c, but at 4.4 you saw the results my cpu wanted a lot of voltage after 4.4ghz and for the benchmark difference it was worth it but if I had your temps I would go for like 4.8ghz which would yield much better results than the diff from 4.4-4.5
post #13 of 38
That seems to be really good at first glance.

Here's mine, and I'm not even running a 3770k

3570k:

3570k @ 4.5ghz @ ~1.26 (got powersavings on it jiggles a lot) @ 70-80F, load temps usually stay around 70-75C hitting max usually 80C, if it's a hot day, high 80s.

D14 (my mount is suspect of a few degrees since I was lopsided and took too long to put it on but shouldn't be horrible)
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also not only are those temps good but that voltage is good too it takes me 1.260 to be 100% stable at 4.5 and puts me close to 90c, but at 4.4 you saw the results my cpu wanted a lot of voltage after 4.4ghz and for the benchmark difference it was worth it but if I had your temps I would go for like 4.8ghz which would yield much better results than the diff from 4.4-4.5
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What are your system specs (motherboard, RAM, Case, video card, etc.)? You can fill out your signature in the My Profile section listed above in the menu tabs.

Also, what your ambient (room temp.)?
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What are your system specs (motherboard, RAM, Case, video card, etc.)? You can fill out your signature in the My Profile section listed above in the menu tabs.
Also, what your ambient (room temp.)?
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Your temps seem very good, you've got a good one there.

My 3770k gets toasty, it hits about 92C running Prime95 at 4.7GHz 1.275v.
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If you are going to stay at that speed and you are not folding then I would not worry about running p95 for longer lengths just to see how hot it gets unless you really want to as very little loads your processor that much. But I think you need a lil longer on prime to say your are definitely stable. I use a AC fan pointed into the case on high when I run prime95 because like I said very little loads it that much and that long. So unless your folding or doing huge video editing/encoding you won't be loading your cpu that hard that long.
What is your primary use of the computer and do you plan on OCing further? For many people there is little to be gained above 4.5GHz without paying for it with heat but if you are only gaming you could shut down hyper-threading and save 5-10c in some cases.
I think you are sitting pretty though as long as you plan on leaving it at 4.5GHz because as the person above mentioned that proc can go much higher without major issues.
I game and render. Well if you say I can go higher I mean why not? How high do you think I can get my processor?


For most people it starts to get very costly in the vcore department very quickly. IMHO it isn't worth a 10% gain in performance at the cost of a ton of vcore. You may be lucky to find out you can OC fairly high without to much vcore or you could be the type to throw caution to the wind. Or you may be in a position where you can afford the best of the best of the best and that means a mandatory OC and even if you break something it was worth getting the best of the best. Whatever the case those are all ok to be I used to be a throw caution to the wind guy now I am a stop where the vcore starts increasing exponentially kinda guy. In other words I have hit speeds higher than 4.5GHz on my 2500k at vcore that people claim are safe but I choose to back down to 4.4GHz because just the diff between 4.4 and 4.5 was several steps up. At 4.4GHz I am running using negative vcore in the asus motherboard settings. Now it isn't truly below stock vcore because I enable LLC but you get the idea. Just to go to 4.5GHz I have to go 4-5 clicks up, that is a very safe voltage but... I don't see 2-3% gain in performance worth a much larger increase in vcore. The same can be said for my i7 920 I run it at 3.8GHz liquid cooled with a full board block and I have gotten it stable to 4.2GHz with lots of head room.

If you find yourself the type to say 5-10% is worth the risk then do it. Also there is a huge difference between people who find the highest stable OC say for example 5GHz or whatever and then back way down and the people who find that highest stable clock and run it 24/7.

When you ask how high do you think I can get my processor it is this question that nobody ever really wants to answer. It is almost like tabo for some one to answer that question. When I first came onto this forum and over clockers. My first questions was hey tell me some magic questions to throw into my Phenom x4 2.2GHz proc. Now I realize it just isn't the case. I can say that most 2ng gen i5s and i7s will hit 4.4-4.5 with very little to no vcore increase. I don't know if that hold true for your chipset. What I do know holds true with all chips is you hit a brick wall made out of vcore at some point and at some point you find you are adding many more steps of vcore than you had with the previous multiplier.

So are you happy with the 4.5GHz? Would 4.8GHz really be a big deal for you? If the answer is NO and YES then carefully start looking for that higher clock. I know when you are reaching the end many little adjustments may come into play I really learn't that OCing the 1st gen i7 and it held true for the higher clocks on my 2500k.

So sorry for such a round about answer but like I said not many people are going to come right out and say this is what you should get on the cpu. Because all the CPUs are different and it is like playing CPU lottery. IMHO you won the CPU lottery as far as heat is concerned. A lot of people found the 2nd gens more favorable for OCing because of heat issues on the 3rd gen. You are obviously not having this issue. Now I doubt that just because you got the magic lucky chip as far as heat is concerned that the same will be true about the max OC because I think the heat issue has more to do with the IHS than anything else.

I hope that helps maybe it doesn't maybe it does.

OH bye the way I just noticed something I said previously may be misleading. I said "as the person above mentioned that proc can go much higher without major issues" I was talking about HEAT not the max cpu speed. It doesn't go too much higher then that I mean 5GHz is rough for a lot of people and that is just a lil more than a 10% increase in speed. But if you want to at least see if you can hit 4.6, 4.7 4.8 with very little vcore then go for it. Who knows you may just get lucky enough to find your way to 5GHz. Also on the 1st gen turning off hyper threading not only decreased the temp it increased how far you could OC it for some people. This may hold true for you or it may not. Hyper threading doesn't help in games but it does in some other places.

How long does a "render" take. Are we talking seconds, minutes, or hours or even days? I know that 10-15YRs ago whenever pentiums where on a card socket and not a socket socket final renders took days! I don't do that stuff anymore so I have no idea what you are rendering and the time it takes. If you are rendering something that takes HRs then what the guy mentioned about your heat in prime95 needed more than a few minutes is very valid. This is of course only if your application is capable of hitting 100% CPU utilization. If it is not then the heat on prime doesn't really matter and I would use a fan to keep it fair and cool.

There is no task that I do that has me going 100% for more than 15-45min

Don't know if that is the same for you.
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For most people it starts to get very costly in the vcore department very quickly. IMHO it isn't worth a 10% gain in performance at the cost of a ton of vcore. You may be lucky to find out you can OC fairly high without to much vcore or you could be the type to throw caution to the wind. Or you may be in a position where you can afford the best of the best of the best and that means a mandatory OC and even if you break something it was worth getting the best of the best. Whatever the case those are all ok to be I used to be a throw caution to the wind guy now I am a stop where the vcore starts increasing exponentially kinda guy. In other words I have hit speeds higher than 4.5GHz on my 2500k at vcore that people claim are safe but I choose to back down to 4.4GHz because just the diff between 4.4 and 4.5 was several steps up. At 4.4GHz I am running using negative vcore in the asus motherboard settings. Now it isn't truly below stock vcore because I enable LLC but you get the idea. Just to go to 4.5GHz I have to go 4-5 clicks up, that is a very safe voltage but... I don't see 2-3% gain in performance worth a much larger increase in vcore. The same can be said for my i7 920 I run it at 3.8GHz liquid cooled with a full board block and I have gotten it stable to 4.2GHz with lots of head room.
If you find yourself the type to say 5-10% is worth the risk then do it. Also there is a huge difference between people who find the highest stable OC say for example 5GHz or whatever and then back way down and the people who find that highest stable clock and run it 24/7.
When you ask how high do you think I can get my processor it is this question that nobody ever really wants to answer. It is almost like tabo for some one to answer that question. When I first came onto this forum and over clockers. My first questions was hey tell me some magic questions to throw into my Phenom x4 2.2GHz proc. Now I realize it just isn't the case. I can say that most 2ng gen i5s and i7s will hit 4.4-4.5 with very little to no vcore increase. I don't know if that hold true for your chipset. What I do know holds true with all chips is you hit a brick wall made out of vcore at some point and at some point you find you are adding many more steps of vcore than you had with the previous multiplier.
So are you happy with the 4.5GHz? Would 4.8GHz really be a big deal for you? If the answer is NO and YES then carefully start looking for that higher clock. I know when you are reaching the end many little adjustments may come into play I really learn't that OCing the 1st gen i7 and it held true for the higher clocks on my 2500k.
So sorry for such a round about answer but like I said not many people are going to come right out and say this is what you should get on the cpu. Because all the CPUs are different and it is like playing CPU lottery. IMHO you won the CPU lottery as far as heat is concerned. A lot of people found the 2nd gens more favorable for OCing because of heat issues on the 3rd gen. You are obviously not having this issue. Now I doubt that just because you got the magic lucky chip as far as heat is concerned that the same will be true about the max OC because I think the heat issue has more to do with the IHS than anything else.
I hope that helps maybe it doesn't maybe it does.
OH bye the way I just noticed something I said previously may be misleading. I said "as the person above mentioned that proc can go much higher without major issues" I was talking about HEAT not the max cpu speed. It doesn't go too much higher then that I mean 5GHz is rough for a lot of people and that is just a lil more than a 10% increase in speed. But if you want to at least see if you can hit 4.6, 4.7 4.8 with very little vcore then go for it. Who knows you may just get lucky enough to find your way to 5GHz. Also on the 1st gen turning off hyper threading not only decreased the temp it increased how far you could OC it for some people. This may hold true for you or it may not. Hyper threading doesn't help in games but it does in some other places.
How long does a "render" take. Are we talking seconds, minutes, or hours or even days? I know that 10-15YRs ago whenever pentiums where on a card socket and not a socket socket final renders took days! I don't do that stuff anymore so I have no idea what you are rendering and the time it takes. If you are rendering something that takes HRs then what the guy mentioned about your heat in prime95 needed more than a few minutes is very valid. This is of course only if your application is capable of hitting 100% CPU utilization. If it is not then the heat on prime doesn't really matter and I would use a fan to keep it fair and cool.
There is no task that I do that has me going 100% for more than 15-45min
Don't know if that is the same for you.
I think 4.5GHz is a good OC. 4.6-4.7GHz would be nice though if my temps didnt get too hot. And if it doesnt require that much vcore.
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I don't think your temps should be a problem and your vcore would probably be within range. What I am saying is that it may take a lot more vcore than what you are giving it now and is that worth it too you? Like lets say you have to add a whole .05v just to go from 4.5GHz to 4.6Ghz is that worth it too you? It may very well be but I like to back off once the rate of return starts diminishing.

That's just my personal preference. But at the same time I will expect to use my 2500K for another 3-4 years or more. Sure it will be replaced by something newer but it will go into my secondary computer which will still get used heavily by myself as well as my wife. So I take more caution than is needed. If you see yourself replacing this in 1-2yrs then you don't need to be nearly as careful or worrysum (if that is a word) as I am. There are people that will just poor the vcore in and good for the gold it's all up to you.

Either way you may want to at least find out how far you can go and what it costs to get there. You are not going to blow up your processor from giving it too much vcore it just wears it out faster and in some cases if it is too high then much much faster depending on how often you see full load. That being said enabling the power saving features are important in extending the life of the cpu if you are extreme OCing that is of course if it stays stable with those features enabled. If you don't FOLD you can probably throw a lot of vcore at the CPU and since it will only actually see that much current under load it won't kill it just by browsing the internet or even playing games.

So anyways I would say go for the max OC but give yourself a vcore limit and say I will not go past this vcore then back it down, trying doing this with Hyperthreading off at first. I def recommend you use a high power AC fan pointed at the inside of your case when you run prime95. This is totally fair if you are not planning on folding or running loading the CPU 100% for HRs at a time. This will keep you at a slightly lower temp and keep your VRMs cooler. When you are gaming or doing anything that doesn't completely load your cores for a long period of time you will not see the temps you see in prime95. So unless my temps are so low it is crazy I always rock THIS FAN on high blasting on the inside of my case when running prime95 for long periods of time.

Good luck and keep us posted on your achievements. Like I said though my recommendation is to turn the power saving functions of the CPU on so long as the CPU stays stable. Also for your absolute max OC I recommend finding it with Hyperthreading off. It will lower your temps and be more stable then you can try turning it on. Chances are though is that even if you net only 300MHz from turning off Hyperthreading that 300MHz is worth more than Hyperthreading in video games by far!
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