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So I have had the Thermaltake Armor for about 2 months and finally got around to switching cases with my old Antec Sonata. Easy enough I thought since I've switched cases before. So I put all the connections in the right place I believe except there was one problem. The usb connections on the Armor are a line of pins I think it was 4 or 5 pins long. The usb on my motherboard, a Chaintech VNF4, are 7 pins total in two rows. Hopefully that made sense. My old case the Sonatas usb plug fit perfectly. Maybe someone with an armor can comment on this.

So I had that problem. Everything else went pretty smoothly. I get it all put together and fire her up. It posts and then it said "verify dmi pool" I think, I'm not for sure on that. Well it tries to do that and fails. Usually I have it boot up from my hard disk.

I load my fail safe option in my bios to see if that might work. It wants to boot from my cd rom even though there is no cd in there. Wierd thing is that it works. I start using windows to see if it is fine but my internet is down and my usb connections don't work right. I'm not positive but I figured that since I loaded the fail safe options that might have something to do with it. I'm not in "safe mode" by the way.

Anyways I try to work it out but still no go. I have taken everything apart again and will try again tomorrow or something. I might just reformat my whole comp anyways. And all I wanted to do was change cases.

I probably will be buying a new psu now since I'd rather not use the same one I was using in my Sonata.
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How many are on each side though? Sorry; just trying to help!
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Oops sorry The usb connection on the armor was 5 pins in a row. The ones on my motherboard are two rows, one is 5 and one is 4. Not 7 total like I said before, Sorry I'm dumb... I figured since there were 5 pins in one of the rows on my motherboard I should plug it in there. I will take a picture and post it tomorrow, kind of tired now.
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Oops sorry The usb connection on the armor was 5 pins in a row. The ones on my motherboard are two rows, one is 5 and one is 4. Not 7 total like I said before, Sorry I'm dumb... I figured since there were 5 pins in one of the rows on my motherboard I should plug it in there. I will take a picture and post it tomorrow, kind of tired now.
Yep; that sounds right to me. One of those 5 pins is not used I believe, but for the sake of simplicity, they added the spot on the armor USB connector.

I am pretty sure you could plug it in either side.

Good luck!
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So I have had the Thermaltake Armor for about 2 months and finally got around to switching cases with my old Antec Sonata. Easy enough I thought since I've switched cases before. So I put all the connections in the right place I believe except there was one problem. The usb connections on the Armor are a line of pins I think it was 4 or 5 pins long. The usb on my motherboard, a Chaintech VNF4, are 7 pins total in two rows. Hopefully that made sense. My old case the Sonatas usb plug fit perfectly. Maybe someone with an armor can comment on this.

So I had that problem. Everything else went pretty smoothly. I get it all put together and fire her up. It posts and then it said "verify dmi pool" I think, I'm not for sure on that. Well it tries to do that and fails. Usually I have it boot up from my hard disk.

I load my fail safe option in my bios to see if that might work. It wants to boot from my cd rom even though there is no cd in there. Wierd thing is that it works. I start using windows to see if it is fine but my internet is down and my usb connections don't work right. I'm not positive but I figured that since I loaded the fail safe options that might have something to do with it. I'm not in "safe mode" by the way.

Anyways I try to work it out but still no go. I have taken everything apart again and will try again tomorrow or something. I might just reformat my whole comp anyways. And all I wanted to do was change cases.

I probably will be buying a new psu now since I'd rather not use the same one I was using in my Sonata.
You're getting the DMA error because your master/slave jumpers aren't configured right.
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The USB connectors should have 9pins/holes. Look at your motherboard manual to find out which side is up for the connectors.
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Originally Posted by sleepy916 View Post
So I have had the Thermaltake Armor for about 2 months and finally got around to switching cases with my old Antec Sonata. Easy enough I thought since I've switched cases before. So I put all the connections in the right place I believe except there was one problem. The usb connections on the Armor are a line of pins I think it was 4 or 5 pins long. The usb on my motherboard, a Chaintech VNF4, are 7 pins total in two rows. Hopefully that made sense. My old case the Sonatas usb plug fit perfectly. Maybe someone with an armor can comment on this.
solution

well seeing as those cable from the top are not long enough to shoot down the side of the drive bay and back in to the mobo I decided not to use any of the devices at the top of the case.. I just rolled the wires up and tucked them behind the power switch in that void there hehe
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You're getting the DMA error because your master/slave jumpers aren't configured right.
I think I did it right since I didn't change anything from my previous setup. It was correct then so I doubt it will be wrong now.

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The USB connectors should have 9pins/holes. Look at your motherboard manual to find out which side is up for the connectors.
That is what I was thinking but the Armor's usb connections is only a 5 pin connection. My motherboard has the 9 pin connection you are talking about.

Here is a couple of pictures of the usb connection from the armor and my motherboard.

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Your PC IS able to boot correctly with full USB ability etc without hooking up the front USB ports. I moved my OEM compaq mobo and all aftermarket parts from the OEM PSU/CASE to a Antec Sonata case / psu. The front USB doesn't work with the new Sonata case, so I do no hook it up, and my computer still works EXACTLY the same.

Also make sure that you plug the USB line into the correct slot on the mobo, alot of them look exactly the same.

As FlaKing already said, check every other cable setup and make sure those are all correct. Make sure that the jumper and cable match! Also make sure that your hook up your optical drive IDE cable to the correct slot on the motherboard, because that may have messed it up if it is hooked into the Hard Drive slot. I am not sure about this, for I have not attempted that stunt, but it is a good guess. Also, an accidental switchup may explain why you boot off your CD drive, as the mobo is using the normal HDD IDE port to boot off whatever device is in there. You most likely can change this through the bios options though.

source one

Q. During bootup my computer hangs at "Verifying DMI pool data." What is it and how do I fix it?

A. DMI or DesktopManagement Interface (pdf) is a layer of abstraction between system components and the software that manages them. The System Management BIOS (SMBIOS) is an extension of the Basic Input Output System (BIOS) that formulates and delivers this information to the operating system. The pool data is the information. In short, when the BIOS is "Verifying DMI pool data" it is verifying the table of data it sends to the operating system (Windows, etc.). If it isn't sucessful, it should return an error. Wait a reasonable period of time for it to finish. It may make take some time or it may be stuck. Possible fixes:

source two


Cause:

This issue can be caused by any of the below reasons.

Corrupt boot files on the computer.
Settings for hard disk drive are not correct.
Floppy diskette or CD in computer causing issue.
Boot devices not set properly.
BIOS corrupt or misc. setting not set properly.
Connections loose or disconnected.
Bad Hard disk drive or other bad hardware.

switch around cable and stuff till its fixed.
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I think I did it right since I didn't change anything from my previous setup. It was correct then so I doubt it will be wrong now.



That is what I was thinking but the Armor's usb connections is only a 5 pin connection. My motherboard has the 9 pin connection you are talking about.

Here is a couple of pictures of the usb connection from the armor and my motherboard.
My case also has the USB headers split up. Seems like there should be a four pin part to go with the 5 pin one.
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