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As I already posted in the Deathadder Megathread: I recently ordered a new Deathadder 3.5G and received a fake version. I have now bought an original Razer Deathadder 3.5G and did some side-by-side comparison between the two.

Left side is the fake, right side is original
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Fake contents
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Original contents
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Different cable length, fake is shorter
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Different USB connector, lower is original
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Side-by-side, left is original. Note that the sidebuttons stick out a lot less on the original one.
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Lower edge of fake DA, note the little edge from the bad injection molding tool
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This is the original shell
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Better view of the edge on the fake one
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Mousewheel on fake
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Mousewheel on original
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Sensor of the fake one, hard to see, but it's off center. Also note the quality of the plastic
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Compare the plastic of the fake above to the original in this picture
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Also the mousefeet are bad on the fake.

I didn't open the mouse up, because I intend to send it back. But I did test it with Enotus Mouse Test: Max Speed 0.5 m/s! So it must be a very cheap sensor. It also felt like 800 DPI max.

This mouse was bought via a third party Amazon trader in Germany.
Edited by Ino. - 11/6/12 at 5:40am
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post #2 of 89
Wow, So if I order a DA through amazon, I might get a fake one? did the fake one cost as much as the original? how can this be avoided during ordering it online?

Thanks for the info btw, +rep
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Wow, So if I order a DA through amazon, I might get a fake one? did the fake one cost as much as the original? how can this be avoided during ordering it online?
Thanks for the info btw, +rep

Well, it was sold by a third party vendor (MULTI SM), and it was cheaper. Amazon in Germany doesn't even sell DAs at the moment, only via third party. This one I bought was available for 37,99€, normally it's at least 50€. The original one in the photos cost me 60€, but that's because I ordered from a well known shop and didn't want to risk getting a fake one again wink.gif
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Wow, that's crazy. I wonder how many people have been caught out by it so far. Does it work?

I can imagine a lot of newer people to their products not being able to tell the difference between the two. From the photos anyway, it might be even more obvious in the flesh.
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May this explains why so many people complain about the quality of the newest razer products.

The non-gold plated connector is maybe the best way to identify them.
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Shouldn't Razer be involved in this? have you contacted them?
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Nice job finding out about the fake Deathadders.
    
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I'm amazed how similar they look if you hadn't taken those close ups. I swear, when I was watching the first few photos I though you were just lunatic lachen.gif
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post #9 of 89
The Shop Feedback has one negative entry where the customer says he got fake Sony headphones
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Originally Posted by Crooksy View Post

Wow, that's crazy. I wonder how many people have been caught out by it so far. Does it work?
I can imagine a lot of newer people to their products not being able to tell the difference between the two. From the photos anyway, it might be even more obvious in the flesh.

It works, yes, but very badly. 0.5 m/s is just so bad...
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Shouldn't Razer be involved in this? have you contacted them?

I told the vendor that he sold me a fake, I don't know if he'll contact Razer with that information.
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The Shop Feedback has one negative entry where the customer says he got fake Sony headphones

Really? I should have checked more than the last 5 reviews wink.gif
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