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Not surprising but disappointing.
It would look amazing on a PC.
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Back in the Day they made so many Games for PC. Now they make nothing. If they lose gaming in PC Windows will be done for.
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post #93 of 472
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Not surprising but disappointing.
It would look amazing on a PC.

It already looks amazing on the 360.
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That's the situation with me. As I've upgraded my PC over the years (now much more recently upgraded to a 2560x1600 IPS) and have experienced framerates that double or even triple what any console game provides, I simply can't tolerate a console game. I tried playing BF3 on my friend's 360 and I couldn't take it. During explosions it felt like I was viewing a Powerpoint presentation, even though it supposedly stays at a steady 30fps. Console gamers can't give me the "I enjoy laying back on my recliner and playing on my 50" TV," when I can do the same on my 55" with a wireless keyboard and mouse. I used to do it frequently but now my PC isn't right next to my TV anymore, plus with my 1440p I'd rather not anyways.
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The problem here is mostly that some people just can't enjoy fps on consoles. I just can't enjoy the game with 30fps and a controller. That just kills the enjoyment of any FPS game for me.
It's a shame, I really liked halo CE and 2, and I actually really like the style of halo 3/reach/4 MP.

Wow, so your eyes are so fast from PC gaming you're practically blind when playing console games?


"Oh noes I can't play any game that looks like a 30-slides-per-second presentation!!!"

You sit there and complain how visually inferior the Halo games on the consoles are compared to most PC games and their graphical capabilities. If your intolerance of games running below 60 fps is greater than your desire to play a game. Then you don't like the game, just the visuals.

If you like a man/woman for his/her looks over his/her personality, then you don't like/love that person. Same crap.
It is a shame, a shame that you're more of a graphics snob than a real gamer. It's a shame the Halo games' graphics capabilities aren't good enough for you despite the gameplay, setting, music, multitude of weapons and vehicles, multiplayer and any other aspects that make a video game.
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That's the situation with me. As I've upgraded my PC over the years (now much more recently upgraded to a 2560x1600 IPS) and have experienced framerates that double or even triple what any console game provides, I simply can't tolerate a console game. I tried playing BF3 on my friend's 360 and I couldn't take it. During explosions it felt like I was viewing a Powerpoint presentation, even though it supposedly stays at a steady 30fps. Console gamers can't give me the "I enjoy laying back on my recliner and playing on my 50" TV," when I can do the same on my 55" with a wireless keyboard and mouse. I used to do it frequently but now my PC isn't right next to my TV anymore, plus with my 1440p I'd rather not anyways.
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The problem here is mostly that some people just can't enjoy fps on consoles. I just can't enjoy the game with 30fps and a controller. That just kills the enjoyment of any FPS game for me.
It's a shame, I really liked halo CE and 2, and I actually really like the style of halo 3/reach/4 MP.

Wow, so your eyes are so fast from PC gaming you're practically blind when playing console games?


"Oh noes I can't play any game that looks like a 30-slides-per-second presentation!!!"

You sit there and complain how visually inferior the Halo games on the consoles are compared to most PC games and their graphical capabilities. If your intolerance of games running below 60 fps is greater than your desire to play a game. Then you don't like the game, just the visuals.

If you like a man/woman for his/her looks over his/her personality, then you don't like/love that person. Same crap.
It is a shame, a shame that you're more of a graphics snob than a real gamer. It's a shame the Halo games' graphics capabilities aren't good enough for you despite the gameplay, setting, music, multitude of weapons and vehicles, multiplayer and any other aspects that make a video game.

.

This. 100%.
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Wow, so your eyes are so fast from PC gaming you're practically blind when playing console games?
L.O.L.
"Oh noes I can't play any game that looks like a 30-slides-per-second presentation!!!"
You sit there and complain how visually inferior the Halo games on the consoles are compared to most PC games and their graphical capabilities. If your intolerance of games running below 60 fps is greater than your desire to play a game. Then you don't like the game, just the visuals.
If you like a man/woman for his/her looks over his/her personality, then you don't like/love that person. Same crap.
It is a shame, a shame that you're more of a graphics snob than a real gamer. It's a shame the Halo games' graphics capabilities aren't good enough for you despite the gameplay, setting, music, multitude of weapons and vehicles, multiplayer and any other aspects that make a video game.
Typical PC -only game elitist mentality of OCN.

The real funny part here is that I actually never talked about graphics of the game. I'm much more interested in having a good and interesting aesthetic in a game than good graphics.

What I did say was that having to use a controller and playing at 30fps will effectively kill my enjoyment in an fps title. I'm sorry but I just consider a game that isn't fluid and relies on a control scheme that require auto aim because of being inaccurate as having bad gameplay. It's about the gameplay, not the graphics.

Also as I said, I like the style of the games, I like what they're doing with the multiplayer and what they're aiming for, it's just the restrictions of the platform that I consider to be too much.

And besides, even if someone did only care about graphics, what does it really matter? He/she is not a worse gamer/person for having a different preference to someone else. Some people care about gameplay, some graphics, some like the story, some people focus on social aspects of gaming and some people just want a healthy mix. You can't be any less of a gamer just because you prefer something over something else.
 
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Wow, so your eyes are so fast from PC gaming you're practically blind when playing console games?
L.O.L.
"Oh noes I can't play any game that looks like a 30-slides-per-second presentation!!!"
You sit there and complain how visually inferior the Halo games on the consoles are compared to most PC games and their graphical capabilities. If your intolerance of games running below 60 fps is greater than your desire to play a game. Then you don't like the game, just the visuals.
If you like a man/woman for his/her looks over his/her personality, then you don't like/love that person. Same crap.
It is a shame, a shame that you're more of a graphics snob than a real gamer. It's a shame the Halo games' graphics capabilities aren't good enough for you despite the gameplay, setting, music, multitude of weapons and vehicles, multiplayer and any other aspects that make a video game.
Typical PC -only game elitist mentality of OCN.

The real funny part here is that I actually never talked about graphics of the game. I'm much more interested in having a good and interesting aesthetic in a game than good graphics.

What I did say was that having to use a controller and playing at 30fps will effectively kill my enjoyment in an fps title. I'm sorry but I just consider a game that isn't fluid and relies on a control scheme that require auto aim because of being inaccurate as having bad gameplay. It's about the gameplay, not the graphics.

Also as I said, I like the style of the games, I like what they're doing with the multiplayer and what they're aiming for, it's just the restrictions of the platform that I consider to be too much.

And besides, even if someone did only care about graphics, what does it really matter? He/she is not a worse gamer/person for having a different preference to someone else. Some people care about gameplay, some graphics, some like the story, some people focus on social aspects of gaming and some people just want a healthy mix. You can't be any less of a gamer just because you prefer something over something else.

Auto Aim? bashing 30FPS? First off, Halo does not have any "auto aim". Second 30FPS is fine. Making both of those points a waste of text. Restrictions of the platform? That's a contradictory statement btw. There is a reason why Halo is up there in shooters. Because it offers fantastic gameplay.
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First off, Halo does not have any "auto aim".

from halo wikia:
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There are two types of assisted aiming in Halo games: Auto-Aim and Magnetism.
Magnetism defines and outlines how far a bullet will "bend" in order to hit an enemy. Bullets and projectiles do not necessarily travel in a straight path; they will curve very slightly in order to hit a target. Different projectiles will experience different curvatures.

Auto-Aim assists aiming and face painting by creating a "sticky" effect between a player's reticule and their target, when in range. When the player moves their reticule near a target within range, the reticule will seem to gravitate toward the target. The effect only happens when the reticule is moving; the moment the player stops aiming, the reticule will stop being pulled toward the target.

Halo PC does not normally have auto-aim
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Auto-Aim
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Second 30FPS is fine.

absolutely and totally subjective.
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There is a reason why Halo is up there in shooters. Because it offers fantastic gameplay.

again completely subjective. And as I already pointed out I really like where the game is going with what people would normally consider "gameplay". But for me (seeing that this whole issue is subjective) the restrictions consoles have outweigh the pros. The game is not fluid enough for me and the controller as a control mechanism for an fps game is cumbersome.
 
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again completely subjective. And as I already pointed out I really like where the game is going with what people would normally consider "gameplay". But for me (seeing that this whole issue is subjective) the restrictions consoles have outweigh the pros. The game is not fluid enough for me and the controller as a control mechanism for an fps game is cumbersome.

Sounds like you are not skilled with the controller. More of a personal problem. If it's not fluid to you then you have not taken the time to get fluid.

Also, no, my statement about 30FPS is not subjective.
There is a difference between FPS and response time.
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from halo wikia:
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Auto-Aim

absolutely and totally subjective.
again completely subjective. And as I already pointed out I really like where the game is going with what people would normally consider "gameplay". But for me (seeing that this whole issue is subjective) the restrictions consoles have outweigh the pros. The game is not fluid enough for me and the controller as a control mechanism for an fps game is cumbersome.

 

I am terrible at CoD games on consoles, but I am decent at Halo, mostly because of  aim assist. I remember trying to kill my own teammates with a BR, and found it ridiculously difficult because aim assist is only turned on on enemies.

 

As far as fluidity goes, I really never have met anyone who said that. To each his own I guess, but Halo is still one of the few console games I play.

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