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If you don't want to dig too deep.
Windows.
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What's wrong with a challenge?
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If you don't want to dig too deep.
Windows.
Edited for truth

What's wrong with a challenge?

fine, accepted.

WINDOWS: pay your $100 install os, spend and hour tracking down drivers, installing basic software such as broswers, office suite, etc. install performance killing antiviris, and after you machien is all bloated full of crap, try and squeeze a couple of games onto the last couple gigs of your almost full ssd

LINUX: pay nothing, install in 15 min, and be ready to go off the bat with all the stuff you need like OO writer, firefox, etc. have the whole thing take up less then 5gigs (with software) have your much faster, viris free pc WITH an ssd still has some room on it
post #23 of 32
Linux Mint - Great starting OS, most things configured and lets you get your feet wet when you want to add something, lots of guides for most anything
Ubuntu - Decent, resource hog compared to most other distro I have tested but still massively less than Windows, more faqs for this distro than any other
Debian - really a base for a lot of distros and you may want to learn about linux before building your own debian, a default debian install has a LOT of apps you just wont need or wont have enough pre-configured depending
Gentoo - if you LOVE command line and typing commands, this one is for you. runs grest but honestly I feel the performance aspect to it is not for beginners because of the headaches involved.
Arch - Nice but similar to Debian in that you may want to know linux already before jumping to this one.
Slackware - Original, bloody fast but minimalistic by nature

My personal suggestion is linux mint 13 or ubuntu. It works and is fairly easy to use. You can always try out different desktop environments and such to find your preference as time goes on.

Personal note - you won't stick with linux unless you live in it. Plan to come across headaches and plan to read and learn but none of that should scare you because once you get your bearings it just flows naturally. Using linux that is.
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fine, accepted.
WINDOWS: pay your $100 install os, spend and hour tracking down drivers, installing basic software such as broswers, office suite, etc. install performance killing antiviris, and after you machien is all bloated full of crap, try and squeeze a couple of games onto the last couple gigs of your almost full ssd
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I was meaning to ask the guy what was wrong with having a little challenge of adding linux to a computer instead of resort to windows.
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Linux Mint - Great starting OS, most things configured and lets you get your feet wet when you want to add something, lots of guides for most anything
Ubuntu - Decent, resource hog compared to most other distro I have tested but still massively less than Windows, more faqs for this distro than any other
Debian - really a base for a lot of distros and you may want to learn about linux before building your own debian, a default debian install has a LOT of apps you just wont need or wont have enough pre-configured depending
Gentoo - if you LOVE command line and typing commands, this one is for you. runs grest but honestly I feel the performance aspect to it is not for beginners because of the headaches involved.
Arch - Nice but similar to Debian in that you may want to know linux already before jumping to this one.
Slackware - Original, bloody fast but minimalistic by nature

My personal suggestion is linux mint 13 or ubuntu. It works and is fairly easy to use. You can always try out different desktop environments and such to find your preference as time goes on.

Personal note - you won't stick with linux unless you live in it. Plan to come across headaches and plan to read and learn but none of that should scare you because once you get your bearings it just flows naturally. Using linux that is.

I agree and disagree withthings in that. first of all debian: if installing from live disk yes, but no more/less so then ubuntu/mint and debian gives you many (a crazy amount actually) of install methods, ranging from the live disk to bare bones minimal. is tht what you mean by "build your own?" thats actully quite easy. run the installer, aptitude install xorg, alsa, alsamixer, window manager. also, I feel I should point out that all guides (well, except those that are about unity) that work on ubuntu will work on mint. by the same token bloat is similar. overall though, nice.

my biggest objection comes to the personal note. I've had my sister using linux for 6 months and she doesn't even know ("how did you make it look like that?" "skill and talent" "cool!")
post #26 of 32
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fine, accepted.
WINDOWS: pay your $100 install os, spend and hour tracking down drivers, installing basic software such as broswers, office suite, etc. install performance killing antiviris, and after you machien is all bloated full of crap, try and squeeze a couple of games onto the last couple gigs of your almost full ssd
LINUX: pay nothing, install in 15 min, and be ready to go off the bat with all the stuff you need like OO writer, firefox, etc. have the whole thing take up less then 5gigs (with software) have your much faster, viris free pc WITH an ssd still has some room on it

I was meaning to ask the guy what was wrong with having a little challenge of adding linux to a computer instead of resort to windows.

doh.gif so sorry. anyway, it was fun ranting
post #27 of 32
I'm personally using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Cinnamon w/ Minty Colors theme and find it both aesthetically pleasing and easy to use. I use it mainly for school work (programming, webserver, mysql etc) and runs on a 16 GB partition on my SSD.
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I agree and disagree withthings in that. first of all debian: if installing from live disk yes, but no more/less so then ubuntu/mint and debian gives you many (a crazy amount actually) of install methods, ranging from the live disk to bare bones minimal. is tht what you mean by "build your own?" thats actully quite easy. run the installer, aptitude install xorg, alsa, alsamixer, window manager. also, I feel I should point out that all guides (well, except those that are about unity) that work on ubuntu will work on mint. by the same token bloat is similar. overall though, nice.
my biggest objection comes to the personal note. I've had my sister using linux for 6 months and she doesn't even know ("how did you make it look like that?" "skill and talent" "cool!")

Your sister is living in linux and not knowing it but also she is not the one who set it up or requiring more than standard features from it. If she was I assume you would be the one setting it up. Since OP is the one doing this for himself by himself then it goes to say that he WILL come across something at some point that could be called a hurdle and stand by my statement that he needs to just stick with it and all difficulties pass with effort.

I appreciate the debate though! No hard feelings.
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I was meaning to ask the guy what was wrong with having a little challenge of adding linux to a computer instead of resort to windows.

I'm just being a jerk because it was like pulling teeth for me to actually, factually switch to Linux. Windows was simple, Windows was easy, and so I can't fathom why anyone would recommend Linux as a replacement for that when it totally isn't. Have you guys actually seen the command line copypasta a noob Linux user gets subjected to on Ubuntu forums and the like? Nuts to that, if you "don't want to dig deep" then it's much more pleasant just to deal with Windows.
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I agree and disagree withthings in that. first of all debian: if installing from live disk yes, but no more/less so then ubuntu/mint and debian gives you many (a crazy amount actually) of install methods, ranging from the live disk to bare bones minimal. is tht what you mean by "build your own?" thats actully quite easy. run the installer, aptitude install xorg, alsa, alsamixer, window manager. also, I feel I should point out that all guides (well, except those that are about unity) that work on ubuntu will work on mint. by the same token bloat is similar. overall though, nice.
my biggest objection comes to the personal note. I've had my sister using linux for 6 months and she doesn't even know ("how did you make it look like that?" "skill and talent" "cool!")

Your sister is living in linux and not knowing it but also she is not the one who set it up or requiring more than standard features from it. If she was I assume you would be the one setting it up. Since OP is the one doing this for himself by himself then it goes to say that he WILL come across something at some point that could be called a hurdle and stand by my statement that he needs to just stick with it and all difficulties pass with effort.

I appreciate the debate though! No hard feelings.

no hard feeling here either smile.gif

I installed it and once or twice had to fix a problem here or there. but frankly, she handed the same laptop with windows just as often before

still, I am consistently surprised by people here on OCN who bail out in 5 minutes so well I wish we didn't have to say that maybe we do. I have been able, however, to switch half my family and most of my friends, even the computer blind ones for the most part.
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