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11/7/12 at 10:43am
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I'm certainly excited about this Beta (even though I'm not in it) and looking forward to the day I can significantly decrease my time in Windows. Even though all the games we love won't be immediately playable, this is a great step in a new direction.

Also, I don't know if this has been brought up anywhere else, but with the combination of Big Picture and Steam for Linux, I see new console possiblities emerging. Instead of needing to purchase Windows to play everything, now you can install Linux to play games on a console that you build yourself! Essentially a build your own console concept. I think that would be awesome! biggrin.gif Off course it will take some time to happen.

Console? Well its still the same games so I don't no why it would be any cheaper/smaller/less powerful other then an overhead thats reduced a bit and the $100 saved on windows. In terms of big picture thats nothing that could not be done on windows.

The main thing I see with steam for linux is a signal to the end of the last major market in where linux simply can not complete quality wise with windows. (Not do to anything Linux or the GNU did/didn't do but to the game devs) among us builders more so then the rest of the world it gives us the option of linux when building for gamers. Before I would ask them if they wanted to dualboot and the response would be 'why?' Soon when some good 1st person shooters come I can say you can save $100. Only when the selection of games becomes enough to keep a big gamer occupied though.
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11/7/12 at 12:23pm
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Console? Well its still the same games so I don't no why it would be any cheaper/smaller/less powerful other then an overhead thats reduced a bit and the $100 saved on windows. In terms of big picture thats nothing that could not be done on windows.
The main thing I see with steam for linux is a signal to the end of the last major market in where linux simply can not complete quality wise with windows. (Not do to anything Linux or the GNU did/didn't do but to the game devs) among us builders more so then the rest of the world it gives us the option of linux when building for gamers. Before I would ask them if they wanted to dualboot and the response would be 'why?' Soon when some good 1st person shooters come I can say you can save $100. Only when the selection of games becomes enough to keep a big gamer occupied though.

I agree that this represents a signal to the end of the last market where Linux couldn't compete. However, given time, the option of building your own console could give Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, etc. some real competition. You could build your own console based on the type of games you play. Maybe you save $100 by not buying Windows, but you also get the choice of which CPU, Graphics Card, etc. you want to use. If you play (just for example) Minecraft but have no interest in playing something like Battlefield 3, you don't need to build a powerhouse console.

I just think it opens up new doors beyond just being able to play games on Linux. smile.gif
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11/7/12 at 1:49pm
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Console? Well its still the same games so I don't no why it would be any cheaper/smaller/less powerful other then an overhead thats reduced a bit and the $100 saved on windows. In terms of big picture thats nothing that could not be done on windows.
The main thing I see with steam for linux is a signal to the end of the last major market in where linux simply can not complete quality wise with windows. (Not do to anything Linux or the GNU did/didn't do but to the game devs) among us builders more so then the rest of the world it gives us the option of linux when building for gamers. Before I would ask them if they wanted to dualboot and the response would be 'why?' Soon when some good 1st person shooters come I can say you can save $100. Only when the selection of games becomes enough to keep a big gamer occupied though.

I agree that this represents a signal to the end of the last market where Linux couldn't compete. However, given time, the option of building your own console could give Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, etc. some real competition. You could build your own console based on the type of games you play. Maybe you save $100 by not buying Windows, but you also get the choice of which CPU, Graphics Card, etc. you want to use. If you play (just for example) Minecraft but have no interest in playing something like Battlefield 3, you don't need to build a powerhouse console.

I just think it opens up new doors beyond just being able to play games on Linux. smile.gif

then how is a console different then a pc? if you can build it, chose your parts, and run an ordinairy os on it then its pretty much a pc
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11/7/12 at 1:50pm
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I agree that this represents a signal to the end of the last market where Linux couldn't compete. However, given time, the option of building your own console could give Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, etc. some real competition. You could build your own console based on the type of games you play. Maybe you save $100 by not buying Windows, but you also get the choice of which CPU, Graphics Card, etc. you want to use. If you play (just for example) Minecraft but have no interest in playing something like Battlefield 3, you don't need to build a powerhouse console.
I just think it opens up new doors beyond just being able to play games on Linux. smile.gif

This isn't the last market that Linux has been shunned from in the past but it was one of the biggest. Hopefully, Valve will tread carefully and things will turn out as good as we want.
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11/7/12 at 2:14pm
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Console? Well its still the same games so I don't no why it would be any cheaper/smaller/less powerful other then an overhead thats reduced a bit and the $100 saved on windows. In terms of big picture thats nothing that could not be done on windows.
The main thing I see with steam for linux is a signal to the end of the last major market in where linux simply can not complete quality wise with windows. (Not do to anything Linux or the GNU did/didn't do but to the game devs) among us builders more so then the rest of the world it gives us the option of linux when building for gamers. Before I would ask them if they wanted to dualboot and the response would be 'why?' Soon when some good 1st person shooters come I can say you can save $100. Only when the selection of games becomes enough to keep a big gamer occupied though.

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Originally Posted by Xem2189 View Post

I agree that this represents a signal to the end of the last market where Linux couldn't compete. However, given time, the option of building your own console could give Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, etc. some real competition. You could build your own console based on the type of games you play. Maybe you save $100 by not buying Windows, but you also get the choice of which CPU, Graphics Card, etc. you want to use. If you play (just for example) Minecraft but have no interest in playing something like Battlefield 3, you don't need to build a powerhouse console.
I just think it opens up new doors beyond just being able to play games on Linux. smile.gif

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then how is a console different then a pc? if you can build it, chose your parts, and run an ordinairy os on it then its pretty much a pc

Because a gaming console is used for dedicated gaming. A PC doesn't (ordinarily) sit in your living room for dedicated gaming on a TV. If anyone want's to talk more about this idea I suggest we start a new thread. Thanks.
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11/7/12 at 2:24pm
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This isn't the last market that Linux has been shunned from in the past but it was one of the biggest. Hopefully, Valve will tread carefully and things will turn out as good as we want.

Beautifully said... smile.gif
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11/7/12 at 6:52pm
I don't know what is more powerful, my love for linux or my love for AMD/Ati.

That's a sad choice, I doubt AMD card will be good enough for game on linux.
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11/7/12 at 7:56pm
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I don't know what is more powerful, my love for linux or my love for AMD/Ati.

That's a sad choice, I doubt AMD card will be good enough for game on linux.

what are you talking about? AMDs gotten alot better and is at least on par with nvidia now. I don't think your likely to see any noticeable drop from windows performance with the latest drivers.
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11/7/12 at 8:36pm
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what are you talking about? AMDs gotten alot better and is at least on par with nvidia now. I don't think your likely to see any noticeable drop from windows performance with the latest drivers.
Really? The last time I checked (never gamed on linux in the past) AMD driver were sub-par in term of 3d performance.

Might give it a try again.
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11/8/12 at 4:06am
I might of misunderstood but didn't amd just kill off the linux driver
team?
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