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Building AMD FX-8350 based system on a budget.

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#1 ·
Hello everyone.

I am trying to build a system based on AMD FX-8350 Vishera, I hope some body can check this and comment ^^.

Core: AMD FX-8350 Vishera
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-880GM [packs HD 4250]
RAM: 4x4G 1333 RAM [G.Skill most likley]
HDD: 150G 16mb buffer 3Gb/s SATA Raptor [very cheap and should be speedy].
PSU: COUGAR A-Series A560 PSU

Optionl: a non-stock AMD cooler [have few in mind] & Arctic Silver 5 tube.

Thank you to everyone in advance! ^^

I hope I didn't screw up too much heh.

P.S. So far I seem to not able to find, which mother board can support Vishera and not breack my wallet.
These claim to support FX, but can they support the latest chip? I am truly unclear on this subject, I hope someone can help me out here...
MSI 990FXA-GD65V2
ARock 970 Pro3
GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3

thank you fr yur time in advance ^^
 
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#2 ·
The middle mobo does not have heatsinked VRMs and will not cut it. Of the other two, the 990FXA has a great reliability record - and a rev 3.0 has UEFI now.

1600Mhz RAM can probably be had for less price.
 
#3 ·
xd_1771

thank you so much for replying! ^^

So the middle one I selected wouldn't cut it?

What would a mobo have to have in order to run the latest Vishera? As I understand I would need 990FX Northbridge, but what else? Could you please elaborate?

Thak you in advance ^^

*I am ok at building Intel system, but wanted AMD this time as I was blown away by AMD's latest flagship = ]
 
#4 ·
With the FX 8-core you ideally want heatsinked VRMs and a quality setup. To which the bottom of the three is probably the best in reliability. Given it's your option I assume you can afford it, so go for it and enjoy 8 cores! Any 970 or 990X or 990FX board with a good VRM setup will do.
 
#5 ·
Thanks for help man! ^^

Well I decided to go with GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3. I hope I did not make a wrng call...

P.S. Cards based on 770 chipset for example sometimes state that they are FX compatible, are they actually compatible with a latest core?
If so, whats wrong with buying them? (i understand inferior chip, inferiors frequencies and etc.), but what else? I for one did not notice to much of a performance increase between pantherpoint mobos from intel and thier older generations [friends comapred benchmarks on similar rigs]
 
#6 ·
I know you're set on an 8350 which is a sweet chip but at the same time you could get a 3570K/Z77 board for the same or even less then a 8350/990Fx combo. Ivy doesn't need high end motherboards to over clock like pd does. You could pair a 3570K with an 89 dollar Pro3 and easily over clock to 4.6-4.8. Go over the benchmarks and choose what's best for what you do on a daily basis. Do not let a specific brand dictate what to buy.
 
#7 ·
Stay Puft

My friend has a rig build around the Ivy. I will be able to compare benchmarks with him than ^^ [build around ASRock z77].

I honestly though, 8350 should be able to take on that ivy bridge[in terms of performance especially when rendering is involved]. But of course I could be wrong ^^.
 
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Red_Dog, is rendering part of your involvement with this machine?
 
#10 ·
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Originally Posted by _Red_Dog_ View Post

Stay Puft
My friend has a rig build around the Ivy. I will be able to compare benchmarks with him than ^^ [build around ASRock z77].
I honestly though, 8350 should be able to take on that ivy bridge[in terms of performance especially when rendering is involved]. But of course I could be wrong ^^.
With apps using all 8 cores it will push ahead of the 3570K. You didnt state where you would be buying from. Newegg? Amazon? TD?

8350/UD3 Combo : 341.98

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1094237

3570K/Extreme4 : 334.98

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Again look at the benches
 
#11 ·
The best argument in favour of the 8350 would have to be that it is favourable for those wishing for a consistent experience thanks to enhanced multitasking ability. The extra cores provide oomph that could be allocated to another task during gaming sessions, such as background virus scans or transcoding or what not - an oomph that is not easily had on Intel processors at the same price.
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post

The best argument in favour of the 8350 would have to be that it is favourable for those wishing for a consistent experience thanks to enhanced multitasking ability. The extra cores provide oomph that could be allocated to another task during gaming sessions, such as background virus scans or transcoding or what not - an oomph that is not easily had on Intel processors at the same price.
Why would you run a virus scanner during gaming? As a matter of fact why would you do anything at all while gaming? A lot of amd fans state what you do and it doesn't make any sense. You want to run a virus scanner? Do it while you're sleeping or in the bathroom
 
#13 ·
Enough! This is about Red Dog and the fact that he has already told us that he wants an FX 8350-based system. He's asking for help in building one, and Vishera is not a bad platform for gaming. I know there are benchmarks to suggest that Ivy is better by 20% in some games. Horray. That's great and all. Now please, let's get back to helping him. Is Ivy a better platform for gaming? Yes, I think it is overall. But Vishera is NOT bad.

If you can buy from Newegg, I would take a hard look at the Rosewill Capstone series. They have modular units that are Gold certified for efficiency and are superb SuperFlower built units that will serve you very well. I've been very impressed with what they've been able to do in the PSU game. I'd recommend this:
Modular 750 watt unit
Non-modular 750 watt unit

This RAM will serve you well:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

Clocks like a monster, or leave it at stock.
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And it's dirt cheap too.

I bet you will need a video card at some point if you want to game. We can help you find one of those if you give us a budget too.
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#14 ·
Stay Puft

To quote DBZ abridged... "Goku.. where did you get that muffin?o_O". I completely missed that combo... oh well.. overpaid 20$ it seems.. to late to do something about that now...

On the other note,
Thnx for help guys ^^. Currently system is has been bought as such =>

FX-8350 on a GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 with Cooler Master Hyper Evo[the legendary budget freezer] servicing it [greased with arctic silver 5 of course].

Sporting CORSAIR Vengeance 2 x 4GB 1600 [$34 cheapest i could find and I generally trust Corsair]

Powered by COUGAR A-Series A560. (I Wanted to give COUGAR PSU's a chance. I usually go with Antek, but decided to switch.)

Graphics card is a HD6450... for now its just there in place of anything on-board. But I am pretty sure it should be "ok" (hitting 40FPS, as I wouldn't need more than that]. If it will chug, than I'll step up to HD6570[almost carbon clone of 550Ti according to GPU review, but nearly twice as cheaper).

So yeah, this is the set up that's on its way! ^^
 
#15 ·
Red dog,
I've just yesterday received my components :
Amd fx8320 Vishera
Gigabyte Ga-990fxa-ud3 motherboard
Mushkin enhanced Silverdrive 8gb ddr3 sdram
Seagate barracuda 1.5tb 5900rpm
Raidmax Blackstone 700 watt modular PS
Cooler Master Hyper EVO with artic silver thermal compound
Also some extra fans, an optical drive
For now I plan on reusing my Radeon 6670 ddr5 1 gb GPU at least til I can afford something better.
I hope you continue this thread as I'd really like to follow along. This will be my first attempt at building a PC and I wouldn't mind any advice .

Oneeyeddog
 
#16 ·
Hi, if you already ordered then maybe it is too late but G.Skill Sniper is onsale $45 then $10 promo code. $35 for some nice ram. Don't really know how it compares to what you already picked though. I just know you where looking at G.Skill at one point.
 
#17 ·
budget and fx-8350 dont go together
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you should go with something like fx-4300 or fx-6300
its not like fx-8350 is gonna give you any boost in gaming that other cheaper chips cannot
 
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Originally Posted by mohit9206 View Post

budget and fx-8350 dont go together
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you should go with something like fx-4300 or fx-6300
its not like fx-8350 is gonna give you any boost in gaming that other cheaper chips cannot
Ok so I am guessing you did not actually read through the thread did you?
 
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Great article: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=962&Itemid=63

I am also upgrading to the 8350 and my mobo to formula v-z.

Want to upgrade my ram as well. I am going to get 32gb's of it just because lol. Even though the 8350 can only support 1866 duel and 1600 quad channel, would it not hurt to go with the higher frequency like 2400? My thinking behind this is, cant you slow the frequency down and get tighter timings with the higher frequency ram then going with sticks that are rated up to 1600 with looser timings? If my thinking is wrong please correct me. I am not going to spend that cash on the 2400 but wouldn't a person be better off getting the quad channel 1866? Thanks for any advice and knowledge you share a head of time.

also to sum up the link to the article if you don't feel like reading the whole thing:
Pros:

+ Eight cores and 5GHz on your desktop computer
+ Officially supports DDR3-1866 memory
+ Better performance than Intel on multithreaded tasks
+ An FX system has 38 usable PCI-E lanes as opposed to the 24 lanes of a Sandy Bridge system
+ Excellent price/performance ratio, finally competitive with Intel in the $200 CPU range

Cons:

- Single core performance still lags far behind Intel
- Few programs use new FX instructions like fused multiply-add, so the full performance potential remains untapped

Hopefully AMD will work on the ICP for jack hammer. If they do, expect a higher msrp and an AMD come back.
 
#24 ·
Could someone advise me on which RAM would work best with my new(as yet uninstalled)AMD 8320 and Gigabyte GA 990 FXA UD3 Mobo? It looks as if the Coolermaster 212 Evo heatsink/fan will block at least 1 of the scokets unless I exaust the fan towards the front of my case, which may not be ideal.Also the memory sockets are numbered 1-4 with 4 being closest to the CPU / heatsink. When installing memory does it matter which scockets are used or in which order? Thanks for any help or feedback, I appreciate it.
 
#25 ·
From my research from the past week. Any 1600 casl 9 kit should be perfect. Anything more and its going overkill unless you do professional video editing or care about benchmarking. But as for real world every day use the difference is not noticeable. As for your CPU cooler, exhausting the air forward will mostliky mess up the air flow in you case, unless you have the rear fan as the intake and the front at an exhaust. I would recommend a zalmen cooler if the width of the cooler is a problem. Don't quote me on this but I was always told to start with the slots closer to the CPU.
 
#26 ·
Thanks for the response Masztalja. I think my only other choice for CPU fan direction is up, towards an exhaust fan. I have 4 fans I've installed : front low intake, rear high intake,side exaust and top exhaust. All are 120mm fans except the top which is a 140mm fan. However any way I install the heatsink/fan other than blowing forward it appears to cover #4( the closest to CPU) of the memory slots. If I'm left to choose between these 2 less than ideal issues, Forward blowing CPU fan or covered memory slot, which choice should I make?
 
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