[Linux user] Am I about to lose my Hard Drives?

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11/6/12 at 7:27pm

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I got two reports here from running Gsmartcontrol. Can someone make head and tails of them for me?

PS: Windows is acting strangely when I boot into it but I don't have any problems in Linux. WDC_WD800BB-00JHC0_WD-WMAM9AJ18787_2012-11-05.txt 4k .txt file

WDC_WD5001AALS-00L3B2_WD-WCASY3625731_2012-11-05.txt 5k .txt file

Thanks in advance guys.

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11/6/12 at 11:35pm

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The first drive (WD800BB) has 16 or 17 bad sectors. I'm not quite sure whether the event count stacks on top of the sector count, or what - but usually more than a few (1-4) bad sectors is a bad sign.

Code:

5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   198   198   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       16
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   199   199   000    Old_age   Always       -       1

The drive has taken its first steps towards dying. My failed WD Greens increased slowly, reaching ~100 bad sectors a few months after their first ones showed up. Then they died and I RMA'd them. Make sure you backup everything you need from that drive.

The second drive (WD5001AALS) has next to no problems.

Code:

199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       1

That's usually caused by a SATA cable that slips just slightly loose. I got about 300 of those (rather than just 1) when I had one end of the SATA connector out a millimetre from the drive. I plugged it in quite sloppily, and then wondered why my benchmarks were at ~2.5MB/sec rather than ~120MB/sec.

None of those values can be reset, but if they hold where they're at, your drives are probably okay. Check them regularly - if any start going up, you have a problem. The bad sectors require the drive to be RMA'd, and the UDMA CRC errors usually require a SATA cable swap.

FYI, short SMART tests don't tell you much. They almost always pass. My favourite SMART test is the extended one. You can invoke it with smartctl.

Code:

smartctl --test=long /dev/sda

Or just use the GSmartControl GUI, etc.

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WD 2TB Green - WD20EARX	WD 2TB Green - WD20EARS	WD Blue 500GB - WD5000AAKS-00V6A0	WD Scorpio Black 500GB - WD5000BEKT-00KA9
Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
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11/7/12 at 6:31pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kramy

The first drive (WD800BB) has 16 or 17 bad sectors. I'm not quite sure whether the event count stacks on top of the sector count, or what - but usually more than a few (1-4) bad sectors is a bad sign.

Code:

5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   198   198   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       16
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   199   199   000    Old_age   Always       -       1

The drive has taken its first steps towards dying. My failed WD Greens increased slowly, reaching ~100 bad sectors a few months after their first ones showed up. Then they died and I RMA'd them. Make sure you backup everything you need from that drive.
The second drive (WD5001AALS) has next to no problems.

Code:

199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       1

That's usually caused by a SATA cable that slips just slightly loose. I got about 300 of those (rather than just 1) when I had one end of the SATA connector out a millimetre from the drive. I plugged it in quite sloppily, and then wondered why my benchmarks were at ~2.5MB/sec rather than ~120MB/sec.

None of those values can be reset, but if they hold where they're at, your drives are probably okay. Check them regularly - if any start going up, you have a problem. The bad sectors require the drive to be RMA'd, and the UDMA CRC errors usually require a SATA cable swap.
FYI, short SMART tests don't tell you much. They almost always pass. My favourite SMART test is the extended one. You can invoke it with smartctl.

Code:

smartctl --test=long /dev/sda

Or just use the GSmartControl GUI, etc.

Thanks. I'll run the full this weekend and probably just retire the drive as I got to 1TB Hitachis coming for backups. Nice to see another Linux user in this section.

CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
Core i3 2370M	Intel HD3000M	Eplida 4GB DDR3 1333	Toshiba 5400RPM
Optical Drive	OS	OS	OS
Generic DVDRW	Kubuntu 13.04 64bit	Win7 Home Premium 64bit	Bodhi Linux 64bit
Case
Acer Aspire TimelineX 4830T
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB	Asus M4A785TD-M EVO	MSI GTX275 (Stock 666)	8GBs of GSkill 1600
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333	WD Caviar Black 500GB	Hitachi Deskstar 1TB	Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB
Optical Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20)	Cooler Master Hyper 212+	Kubuntu x64	Windows 7 x64
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Bodhi Linux x64	Acer G215H (1920x1080)	Seasonic 520	HAF912
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Optical Drive	OS	OS	OS
Generic DVDRW	Kubuntu 13.04 64bit	Win7 Home Premium 64bit	Bodhi Linux 64bit
Case
Acer Aspire TimelineX 4830T
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB	Asus M4A785TD-M EVO	MSI GTX275 (Stock 666)	8GBs of GSkill 1600
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333	WD Caviar Black 500GB	Hitachi Deskstar 1TB	Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB
Optical Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20)	Cooler Master Hyper 212+	Kubuntu x64	Windows 7 x64
OS	Monitor	Power	Case
Bodhi Linux x64	Acer G215H (1920x1080)	Seasonic 520	HAF912
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N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt	ASUS proprietary for 1001P	GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?)	1GB DDR2
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS	OS
160GB	LGLHDLBDRE32X	Bodhi Linux	Fedora LXDE
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11/9/12 at 11:50pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookie1337

Thanks. I'll run the full this weekend and probably just retire the drive as I got to 1TB Hitachis coming for backups. Nice to see another Linux user in this section.

Happy to help.

I'll use almost any OS. Just drop me in front of it.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X6 1055T	Saberooth 990FX	eVGA GTX 560 SE	4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Seagate 3TB 7200.14 - ST3000DM001-9YN166	WD Black 640GB - WD6401AALS	WD Green 1.5TB - WD15EARS	Hitachi 2TB 7200RPM - HDS723020BLA642
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
WD 2TB Green - WD20EARX	WD 2TB Green - WD20EARS	WD Blue 500GB - WD5000AAKS-00V6A0	WD Scorpio Black 500GB - WD5000BEKT-00KA9
Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Pioneer DVR-115DBK	Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE	LG GH22NS90	Coolit Eco R120
Cooling	Cooling	OS	OS
Yate Loon Fans - D12SL-12-RED/BLACK	Fractal Design 120mm Fan - FD-FAN-120	Windows 7	Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Samsung 2343BWX 23" (2048x1152)	I-Rocks KR-6170-BK	Corsair HX620	Fractal Design Define R3
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Razer Abyssus 3500DPI	Mousepad + Desk	Onboard Realtek® ALC 892	Cyber Acoustics CA-2992 2.0 Speakers
Other	Other	Other
Razer Krait 1600 DPI	nGear G-C1601 Card Reader	Pisen Card Reader
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VIA Eden C7 1200mhz	Jetway J7F4K1G2ES-LF	VIA Onboard	512MB PC2-4200
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
A-Data FlashDrive	None	Fanless	Linux
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Headless	None	65w Power Brick	Antec ISK300-65
Mouse	Audio
None	Onboard VIA
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Barton XP-M 2400+ FJQ4C	Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe	256MB BFG 7800GS OC	2x512MB Samsung PC3200
Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X6 1055T	Saberooth 990FX	eVGA GTX 560 SE	4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Seagate 3TB 7200.14 - ST3000DM001-9YN166	WD Black 640GB - WD6401AALS	WD Green 1.5TB - WD15EARS	Hitachi 2TB 7200RPM - HDS723020BLA642
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
WD 2TB Green - WD20EARX	WD 2TB Green - WD20EARS	WD Blue 500GB - WD5000AAKS-00V6A0	WD Scorpio Black 500GB - WD5000BEKT-00KA9
Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Pioneer DVR-115DBK	Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE	LG GH22NS90	Coolit Eco R120
Cooling	Cooling	OS	OS
Yate Loon Fans - D12SL-12-RED/BLACK	Fractal Design 120mm Fan - FD-FAN-120	Windows 7	Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Samsung 2343BWX 23" (2048x1152)	I-Rocks KR-6170-BK	Corsair HX620	Fractal Design Define R3
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Razer Abyssus 3500DPI	Mousepad + Desk	Onboard Realtek® ALC 892	Cyber Acoustics CA-2992 2.0 Speakers
Other	Other	Other
Razer Krait 1600 DPI	nGear G-C1601 Card Reader	Pisen Card Reader
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
VIA Eden C7 1200mhz	Jetway J7F4K1G2ES-LF	VIA Onboard	512MB PC2-4200
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
A-Data FlashDrive	None	Fanless	Linux
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Headless	None	65w Power Brick	Antec ISK300-65
Mouse	Audio
None	Onboard VIA
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Barton XP-M 2400+ FJQ4C	Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe	256MB BFG 7800GS OC	2x512MB Samsung PC3200
Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
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