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i would like to overclock. i hear that 3 ghz is very attainable with the 6600. does anyone who has this combination have some basic settings that i could start with. i also have DDR2 533 ram. thanks
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Overclock from the BIOS...Then check temp and overclock more.
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i would like to overclock. i hear that 3 ghz is very attainable with the 6600. does anyone who has this combination have some basic settings that i could start with. i also have DDR2 533 ram. thanks
vMCH = 1.65
vFSB = 1.50
vDimm = 2.15
FSB= 334
vCore leave auto and try to boot at 334.
If you have trouble up your vCore to 1.52 and try again dont bump your vCore above 1.55 on air because you will be way too hot.

BTW you can go higher than 3ghz...
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You’re suggesting increasing the FrontSide Bus Termination Voltage and Memory Controller Hub Voltage to ascertain a core clock frequency of 3.0GHz?

I have to suggest against this option, due to the cooling potential within the computer system. With acceptable cooling this would not cause an issue, however with stock cooling I would not advise this as being the best cause of action.

I would suggest you leave those specified voltages at default settings, and increase the clock frequency to the value you wish.

If CPU voltage is defined as "auto" on most BIOS revisions it will scale with core clock frequency to maintain stability. I suggest setting the CPU Voltage to 1.325v manually for that particular frequency.

Please do not exceed 60.1C thermal temperature on either Core 0 or Core 1 (on die sensor/diode).

Please be aware you will need to run a divider on your system memory. If you do not wish to do this you will need to change your VDIMM or assign looser memory timings.
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I have to agree with The Manuel, Bumblebee, your recommendations are dangerous and way over what is needed. The goal of 3Ghz on a E6600 is rather mild and quite attainable on most of the chips. There is certainly no need for jacking up all the voltage that much, and certainly it should never be recommended to leave CPU vcore on AUTO when overclocking.

mooch, the best way to overclock is to start at the stock settings and slowly work up from there. Simply taking someone else's settings and plugging them in is not the best method. In addition, where is the fun in that? Try it yourself, see what you can do with it and be proud of what you accomplish.

I had posted a long, detailed list of a slow and steady overclocking method a while ago but I can't seem to find it right now

The best place to start is to run your CPU at stock settings and full load and see what vcore it is listed at running at. Then, go into BIOS and set the vcore manually to 1 or 2 steps under that reading, bump the FSB up by 5Mhz, and set your RAM to run at 1;1 with the new FSB (so a 231FSB you would run your RAM at 462Mhz)...then test to see if it is stable. If so, bump the FSB again, increase the RAM to 1:1 at the new FSB and test again.......you should only increase Vcore when you find any instability, and then only by 1 setting at a time.

As for the highest amount of vcore to use, the question must be asked of what do you expect our of this system? If you expect to throw this CPU away next year and get something new, then you have more options for higher voltage. If however you plan to keep and use this system for a longer period of time, and if a catastrophic failure of the system would be a large problem for you, then much going over 1.35v would be bad advice.

Finally, cooling must be addressed, and with the stock cooler, you will likely find it difficult to reach your goal and stay within the thermal specifications. I actually would recommend you keep the CPU under 55c since it will be overclocked, but either way, that stock cooler will be what holds you back.
post #6 of 14
dude i have C2D E6600 on a P5W DH Deluxe too. right now i reached 3.6Ghz (on a 9 cpu multiplier, but im using a 8). i have a huge 110mm zalman cnps9700led HSF and my cpu temp never went above 38*C on load.
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post #7 of 14
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I have to agree with The Manuel, Bumblebee, your recommendations are dangerous and way over what is needed. The goal of 3Ghz on a E6600 is rather mild and quite attainable on most of the chips. There is certainly no need for jacking up all the voltage that much, and certainly it should never be recommended to leave CPU vcore on AUTO when overclocking.

mooch, the best way to overclock is to start at the stock settings and slowly work up from there. Simply taking someone else's settings and plugging them in is not the best method. In addition, where is the fun in that? Try it yourself, see what you can do with it and be proud of what you accomplish.

I had posted a long, detailed list of a slow and steady overclocking method a while ago but I can't seem to find it right now

The best place to start is to run your CPU at stock settings and full load and see what vcore it is listed at running at. Then, go into BIOS and set the vcore manually to 1 or 2 steps under that reading, bump the FSB up by 5Mhz, and set your RAM to run at 1;1 with the new FSB (so a 231FSB you would run your RAM at 462Mhz)...then test to see if it is stable. If so, bump the FSB again, increase the RAM to 1:1 at the new FSB and test again.......you should only increase Vcore when you find any instability, and then only by 1 setting at a time.

As for the highest amount of vcore to use, the question must be asked of what do you expect our of this system? If you expect to throw this CPU away next year and get something new, then you have more options for higher voltage. If however you plan to keep and use this system for a longer period of time, and if a catastrophic failure of the system would be a large problem for you, then much going over 1.35v would be bad advice.

Finally, cooling must be addressed, and with the stock cooler, you will likely find it difficult to reach your goal and stay within the thermal specifications. I actually would recommend you keep the CPU under 55c since it will be overclocked, but either way, that stock cooler will be what holds you back.
Folks the real vMCH of the P5W DH Deluxe is 1.45 (when set at 1.65)
No risk is incurred with this mobo. Thumper check it with a volt meter. I was personally shocked which is why I had my P5W DH Deluxe modded by Tonio so that it would allow for 2.1+ volts. Of course I did add aftermarket cooling.


All of that said the proof is in the pudding or in this case the voltage


Still i do respect your oppinion and I could be wrong.
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post #8 of 14
That will depend on the Power/Voltage regulation system used. Some P5WDH boards use different voltage regulators than the standard default regulation system.

It is of course possible that 1.65 vMCH could in fact run at 1.45 due to a voltage fluctuation, however even that value will increase the thermal level of the system by a specific amount. Therefore if cooling is not up to standard then the system may encounter thermal issues.

As for my system, at 1.65 vMCH I do get 1.64v
Even though this is because I have a slightly modified voltage regulation system than the default ASUS design.
post #9 of 14
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Folks the real vMCH of the P5W DH Deluxe is 1.45 (when set at 1.65)
No risk is incurred with this mobo. Thumper check it with a volt meter.
When I tested my p5w dh deluxe vmch at 1.65v it read about 1.645v.

I don't know whats wrong with his.

When doing the pencil mod, my board would not post at 1.85 and above.

And its almost too hot at 1.75 with a waterblock. Im contemplating trying to make an 80w pelt cooler for my n/b
    
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post #10 of 14
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thanks for the tips. just one question. there seems to be debate about where to put the cpu vcore. i guess it's just a matter of testing and how good your cooling is. but should it never be at auto when overclocking.
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