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What is this supposed to prove? Looks like standard 30fps video to me.
exactly. he still hasn't addressed my earlier comment that the game is being ran at 60fps while he is playing it (according to the settings) and then he is i guess recording it at 30frames? video and gameplay are very different in terms of frame rate - video is fine at what, like 24?. OP needs to lock the games refresh rate at 30 and see if he still thinks it is as smooth as playing at 60+
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Moved to a more appropriate forum.

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for me enything below 60fps is borderline unplayable. i get nauseous after a short period of time. it has to be 60fps and over
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I'm glad I grew up when I did, atari, nes... all the good game consoles. 60fps what?
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I'm glad I grew up when I did, atari, nes... all the good game consoles. 60fps what?

yah. when the N64 came out the Frame rate went from 30-15 in some games (banjo Kazooie tongue.gif ) i would shoot myself playing a modern PC game at those frame rates
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Can't believe I wasn't here when this thread started.........everything pretty much has been said..........


I'm a bit surprised mods wouldn't close this down, as it borders on misinformation, and science tells us this thread thread and the TC are wrong.


I'm glad my eyes work, TF2 and L4Ds look really smooth on my rig and monitor. tongue.gif
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Definitely can tell when frames drop to the 40's, so 30 is clearly not "the same" as 60, especially for fast paced FPS.

Age of empires might be fine at 30 fps tongue.gif

 

Human eye can see beyond 60 fps, don't confuse standard monitor sync with human eye. Some human eyes will not see three men on a donkey and others will see a lot, same happens with the fluidity of fps some will notice higher frames and some wont notice anything beyond 20. It depends on the person, so don't make generalizations about human eye based solely on your own experience.

 

Don't get the point of the video, its not a side by side comparison.

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I tried soemthing today.

30hz and 120fps in CSS was pretty smooth, LOTS of tearing.

30hz and 30fps was garbage

120hz and 30 fps was okay

120hz and 120fps was fan freaking tastic

120hz and 300 fps was like **** ***** with ******** ****** on ************!

I hooked up my CRT and did some playing on 160hz... then I ... yeah.

This thread sucks.
Edited by Xinoxide - 11/8/12 at 7:42pm
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Can't believe I wasn't here when this thread started.........everything pretty much has been said..........
I'm a bit surprised mods wouldn't close this down, as it borders on misinformation, and science tells us this thread thread and the TC are wrong.
I'm glad my eyes work, TF2 and L4Ds look really smooth on my rig and monitor. tongue.gif

Yeah, but it will be said, and said again like it always is. I don't understand why people keep trying to change the oppinion of other people.

As for mods closing it down, its pointless, since another thread will just open, and the debate will start all over again!
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Yeah, but it will be said, and said again like it always is. I don't understand why people keep trying to change the oppinion of other people.
As for mods closing it down, its pointless, since another thread will just open, and the debate will start all over again!

The mods should just pick one, leave it open, then lock any and all new threads, and redirect to the open one. I think this is one of the reoccurring topics that this would work for. You can't do it with everything...mods are busy enough without managing every topic

This will keep coming up as long as people look at something that is displayed lower than popular frame rates and they think that it is still good. Really I think that is how this one started. 30fps was still good. They didn't say it was better...it was just acceptable. I've played some games that were like that and they typically had good use of motion blur (the reason why 24fps movies look smooth to us...if you took a still of any one frame it would be a blurry image. Though motion blur in a game works a bit different, but same principle I believe). I think my hardware I had at the time could do Crysis 1 on high settings and 2x AA at about 30fps and it was still playable for example. I really felt the sluggishness in the controls though, but I really didn't notice that until I got to play it at higher fps.
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