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You get what you pay for.
True for consumers. AND true for corporations.

In which case, Foxconn should have never agreed to the contract that allowed them to be suppliers. Deals go both ways.

It does go both ways, but I'm thinking that if Apple had to ask for Foxconn to step up the quality in materials, it may mean that they hadn't agreed on such terms initially. It's like saying a quarter of the way through the contract Apple tells Foxconn "We want better quality." Foxconn then has every right to raise their price. If Apple refused, then that's why there is such a shortage/delay in production; due to the job's revenue not being feasibly sufficient to hire more workers for the newly demanded higher quality. Foxconn may have said "We'll up the quality, but we can't meet your deadline unless you pay us more so we can hire and train more workers."
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 11/7/12 at 12:30pm
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Actually, design is subjective, so it's not really a truth necessarily. And weren't there a decent number of build quality issues with the iPhone 5?
Also, where are you getting the information that Apple's aluminum anodizing process hasn't been used before?

aluminum and glass are considered more luxurious than cheap plastics by the market, they are more valuable materials
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I'm sure if Apple or Foxxcon do improve conditions, the price of the iphone 5 will go up another $100-$200 odd. It's not as if people will stop buying it.

You're sure, huh?
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If the manufacturer/assembler does not believe they can properly train/pay their workers or meet agreed upon deadlines, that is ENTIRELY the fault of the manufacturing/assembling company. Basically don't promise what you can't deliver.

This. Foxconn should have not made the deal if they weren't ready to meet the deadline.
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aluminum and glass are considered more luxurious than cheap plastics by the market, they are more valuable materials

This. I'll take aluminium and glass over cheapo plastic any day, especially at the same price as plastic alternatives ( on contract at least ).
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It does go both ways, but I'm thinking that if Apple had to ask for Foxconn to step up the quality in materials, it may mean that they hadn't agreed on such terms initially. It's like saying a quarter of the way through the contract Apple tells Foxconn "We want better quality." Foxconn then has every right to raise their price. If Apple refused, then that's why there is such a shortage/delay in production; due to the job's revenue not being feasibly sufficient to hire more workers for the newly demanded higher quality. Foxconn may have said "We'll up the quality, but we can't meet your deadline unless you pay us more so we can hire and train more workers."

I am fairly certain that if this was the case, it would be all over the news. When it comes to things that put Apple at a disadvantage, the media is usually all over it for the extra sound bites just like Apple haters come out from under their bridges for any bad news in regards to the company. That's just my thought process though.
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I am fairly certain that if this was the case, it would be all over the news. When it comes to things that put Apple at a disadvantage, the media is usually all over it for the extra sound bites just like Apple haters come out from under their bridges for any bad news in regards to the company. That's just my thought process though.

They also come out from under their bridges when there's good news about Apple to try to turn it bad smile.gif
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It does go both ways, but I'm thinking that if Apple had to ask for Foxconn to step up the quality in materials, it may mean that they hadn't agreed on such terms initially. It's like saying a quarter of the way through the contract Apple tells Foxconn "We want better quality." Foxconn then has every right to raise their price. If Apple refused, then that's why there is such a shortage/delay in production; due to the job's revenue not being feasibly sufficient to hire more workers for the newly demanded higher quality. Foxconn may have said "We'll up the quality, but we can't meet your deadline unless you pay us more so we can hire and train more workers."

I think the "quality" they're referring to is the percentage of defective units, scratches in the manufacturing process, etc. Not more expensive materials.

I understand the article as Foxconn is running into problems that were under-estimated or unforeseen when they agreed to the contract with Apple. Nowhere do I see Apple trying to "change the game" on Foxconn in the middle of production without a modification to the contract.
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This. Foxconn should have not made the deal if they weren't ready to meet the deadline.
This. I'll take aluminium and glass over cheapo plastic any day, especially at the same price as plastic alternatives ( on contract at least ).

Give me the durability of plastic any day over flaking aluminum.
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Give me the durability of plastic any day over flaking aluminum.

Flaking aluminum? doh.gif Not even going to try to think how you came up with that.
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