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Hello!

This problem has been plaguing me for over a week now.
Whenever I start up my computer It boots into windows perfectly fine, but then It beings to become unresponsive and I have a circle on my cursor rotating and I am forced to turn off my computer, go into safe-mode and use It that way and wait a while and then boot into It again.

I've done checks with Seagate tools on both my HDDs and Speedfan's SMART and It seems to be working fine.
I've done a RAM check with Window's start up repair and multiple system restores, registry cleaning, uninstalling and a soon to be disk-defrag.

I have two HDDs and one has my Windows and a few programs and the second has my games on and recordings, I made it like this with hope that It would reduce stress on my 2 year old 500GB sata Hard drive.

Could this be a Windows problem? It's been bugging me a lot recently and It's time consuming and annoying, I just can't spot what's wrong and I've heard that a problem like this If It's a HDD then it could become worse, I have my important files on the second drive If anything goes wrong.

Previously I was having problems where my PC would freeze for a second and If there was audio playing It would distort It or make a loud sound, this would happen every couple of minutes and then stop and I haven't seen this occur in a good while now however now my system becomes unresponsive.

I have an OC'd system which I believe is perfectly stable as I've been running It like this for over a year now, If not two.
My AMD Phenom II 555 Black Edition has It's locked 2 cores unlocked and are perfectly stable making It a Quad-Core CPU, I've had It since late 2010 and It's never had a problem since, these are at 3.6Ghz and I haven't made any voltage tweaks at these clocks.
I also have a AMD Radeon 6850 OC'd to what the max stock voltages can take and that's stable to @ Core Clock 950 and Memory Clock at 1150.

I have a relatively cool system with four 12cm fans and It's never overheated with this configuration, I dont think that my Overclocks are causing my system to do so,

I have a Artic Freezer 7 CPU Cooler which is cooling my CPU and I believe it does a good job, however with these cores unlocked I am unable to see a reliable CPU temperature but I do get readings of 40-45 on idle. on load It becomes 50-55 and I've never seen it above that temp and again I can't read the correct temps but I think these are from the motherboard's CPU sensor.

I've read a lot into unlocking those cores and ensuring they're stable, when I didn't have the cooler It would blue screen after hitting high temperatures or at load temp for a long time. My system runs cool overall now.

I recently plugged up an IDE drive to rip my GameCube games only to find out it's a CD-Rom drive, It's still active in my system, could this old hardware be the cause of my system hanging?
I have a Sata disk drive as well which is a "proper" drive biggrin.gif

This problem can only get worse I fear, is there anything I haven't done or what could be the problem, I am usually able to fix my problems by myself or by Googling which i did a lot of before I came here but I dont think there's anything else I can do to my knowledge and understanding of the problem.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks for reading.
post #2 of 14
That was one heck of a novel tongue.gif. Good info provided. For me, whenever an issue arises one of the first things to do is go back to manufacture settings to rule out that it is that portion of hardware.

In safe mode are you able to use the computer of extended periods of time? or just to do a task or two?

If it works in safe mode but not normally it would indicate to me that it could be a virus. Have you tried a virus scan? Make sure you update your Virus scanner prior to running.

Good Luck
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Run mse, see if it picks up a virus
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I've ran multiple quick virus scans with MSE, Malwarebytes, Ad-aware and Superantispyware.
I didn't run a full scan because I thought that the quick scan would be able to wipe the pottential virus since It searches vital areas I believe, however I am running a full scan with MSE now that you've mentioned It.

Surprisingly I didn't require to do those temporary fixes to prevent the problem, my PC booted up fine today.
I can run my system in safe mode perfectly fine also.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by TopicClocker View Post

Hello!
I've done a RAM check with Window's start up repair and multiple system restores, registry cleaning, uninstalling and a soon to be disk-defrag.

I recently plugged up an IDE drive to rip my GameCube games only to find out it's a CD-Rom drive, It's still active in my system, could this old hardware be the cause of my system hanging?

Just want to take a moment and point out that you don't really check RAM by using any of those tools that you mentioned. I just want to make that clear. If you are wanting to check your memory, use memtest.

Also, the new drive in your computer could totally cause issues, particularly if it isn't connected right. Is the drive plugged in as a master, a slave, or as cable select?

Have you checked the event viewer at all to see what might be causing this problem? The event viewer has all sorts of great info in there, even if its not fail proof. Look for errors at the same time that you are trying to log in, and it might give you some information that could get us pointed in the right direction.

Are you still experiencing the issue?
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Just want to take a moment and point out that you don't really check RAM by using any of those tools that you mentioned. I just want to make that clear. If you are wanting to check your memory, use memtest.
Also, the new drive in your computer could totally cause issues, particularly if it isn't connected right. Is the drive plugged in as a master, a slave, or as cable select?
Have you checked the event viewer at all to see what might be causing this problem? The event viewer has all sorts of great info in there, even if its not fail proof. Look for errors at the same time that you are trying to log in, and it might give you some information that could get us pointed in the right direction.
Are you still experiencing the issue?

Okay thanks, Yes I encountered It today unfortunately, performed the same routine as well.
My IDE drive is on cable select, I think I'll remove It or maybe just disconnect It as It isn't really useful being a CD-Rom.
I'll run another scan but this time with Super Anti Spyware and maybe Malwarebytes, the previous scan with MSE took 4+ hours consuming time to perform another.
I had a quick check in the event viewer a few days ago, I'll try and take a look again, thanks for the suggestion.
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"The Computer Browser service depends on the Server service which failed to start because of the following error:
The dependency service or group failed to start."

And this error just loops in the event browser, this is probably the problem frown.gif
post #8 of 14
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I have an OC'd system which I believe is perfectly stable as I've been running It like this for over a year now, If not two.
My AMD Phenom II 555 Black Edition has It's locked 2 cores unlocked and are perfectly stable making It a Quad-Core CPU, I've had It since late 2010 and It's never had a problem since, these are at 3.6Ghz and I haven't made any voltage tweaks at these clocks.
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This is your problem mate.Your operating system got corrupted.Revert to original clocks or upgrade CPU.

Computer browser is useless ,let it disabled.
If the system passes memtest and so on it doesn t mean it s healthy

So revert to original ,default settings ,no overclocking what so ever the save your data on some other HDD then low level format the HDD you are using and then reinstall your OS.
   
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This is your problem mate.Your operating system got corrupted.Revert to original clocks or upgrade CPU.
Computer browser is useless ,let it disabled.
If the system passes memtest and so on it doesn t mean it s healthy
So revert to original ,default settings ,no overclocking what so ever the save your data on some other HDD then low level format the HDD you are using and then reinstall your OS.

I agree with some of your comments, but not all of them.

I have seen machines where the OC was marginally stable, but after long a long time it started to show increasingly strange symptoms. The problem in each case came from a reference clock based OC.

If that is the case, then you can reinstall the OS and it will work as expected for some length of time. However if nothing about the OC is changed then there the same problem will appear again later. However if your OC is stable, and memtest says your ram is stable at that speed, then you should be safe to keep your OC. Many people have run OC's for years without having an OS corrupted, but a bad OC can totally corrupt the OS.

You could also try running a linux live disk to see if the machine randomly reboots. If it continues to randomly reboot, then you know that the problem is in the hardware somewhere. If the problem disappears, then it is likely a corrupted OS. Easy peasy smile.gif.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying the "computer browser is useless", and to "let it disabled". Unless you mean the event viewer. Like I said, the event viewer is not fool proof, but I've had it come through for me many times. It looks like the event that he got when looking at the event viewer is fairly generic. It sounds like it is saying that some service failed to start because a dependent service wasn't running. It could be the problem, but you'd need to look at the event code and look up what things specifically could be causing that problem.

Good luck man smile.gif.
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I had this same problem. I first suspected the ram and then found out that my HDD was failing. Download HD Tune and click on the health tab and put up a screenshot here.
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