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I'd have to agree with what most people are saying. You can get a nice increase in performance just by overclocking your cpu.
If you really want to upgrade, I recommend the 3570k and a z77 board. That will also let you take advantage of PCI express 3.0 that your 680 already supports.

Micro Center has great deals right now if you live near 1.
 
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stock 2.7 not 2.8ghz. that puts a damper on my numbers..
ok then
use the 266 ref clock and your max 13.5 core multi. thats close enough to 3.6ghz
use the rest of those settings i posted earlier and see if your stable. you can fiddle around and try to go higher later if you want. youll need a reference clock (fsb) over 300mhz to go higher and still keep your ram at a high speed although phenoms like tighter timings more than speed.

With 300Mhz on the FSB the OP will achieve 4Ghz, the goal for NB should be 2.8Ghz and HT at stock 2Ghz.
Voltages for 4Ghz can be in the 1.36~1.42 depending largely on the chip's, they are pretty cool so an Hyper 212+ will be capable of handling it.
You'll have to put some volts to the NB tho, that high of an FSB will require you to put volts, with 1 week of testing you should be able of achieving a stable overclock.

Start by doing 12h round's of Primo95 to see if it holds thro the 12h's, if it goes thro the 12h's let it continue to the 24h.

Since your ram is 1066 can you tell us what's their timings in the BIOS? You might have to lower the timings to overclock with that ram, if possible pick up a cheap 20$ 4Gb 1600Mhz kit or the Samsung Wonder Ram, thats 8Gb for 40$.

Else you'll have to losen up the timings to let the ram run within spec's.

Your goal is 13.5*300= ~4Ghz @ 1.4v probably.
The NB I can't really say anything about the volts cause its the 990FX NB and not the 890FX... But you will want the CPU-NB running @ minimum 2.6Ghz. Preferably 2.8Ghz. Good would be 3.0Ghz.
To eliminate a bottleneck in AMD Thuban CPU's the CPU-NB speed can make a big difference. Remember to keep HT as close to 2Ghz as possible, increasing it affects performance negatively.
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with him never overclocking his particular cpu is why i pointed out the settings i did. no x6 is guaranteed to hit 4ghz stable. plus with his ram being 1066, a 266 ref clock will get a '3.6' core, a 2600 cpu-nb, an 1862 ht link( personally i feel 2128 may cause instability) and ram at 1064.
this SHOULD be found to be stable on the first go-round and as i said earlier, he can try for higher later. he would still be able to game better on this when found stable rather than going back to stock while he tries to find his stable highest which could take a week.

im not trying to disprove or argue against anything youre saying tokkan. im just trying to get him faster sooner.
youre entire post is spot-on. good info, good help.
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Thanks for the help everyone! i will try my hand at overclocking to see what i can get.

So i guess the basics are to lower the RAM speed and clock the FSB higher to raise the RAM speed and the CPU speed

or

Buy faster RAM and raise the FSB to the native RAM speed and that will raise CPU speed also

I'll try to start tonight with what i have, I Should also point out that the motherboard I know have is the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P

post #35 of 68
you need to find out what revision your board is. only the 3.1 revision is recommended to overclock on. the pic on newegg shows (i think) a 4+1 power phase but it may just be the rev 3.1 board they show.
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboard-vrm-info-database-now-with-socket-fm2
wow. i thought you had the 990fxa


wheres XD ?!?
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Originally Posted by pc-illiterate View Post

with him never overclocking his particular cpu is why i pointed out the settings i did. no x6 is guaranteed to hit 4ghz stable. plus with his ram being 1066, a 266 ref clock will get a '3.6' core, a 2600 cpu-nb, an 1862 ht link( personally i feel 2128 may cause instability) and ram at 1064.
this SHOULD be found to be stable on the first go-round and as i said earlier, he can try for higher later. he would still be able to game better on this when found stable rather than going back to stock while he tries to find his stable highest which could take a week.
im not trying to disprove or argue against anything youre saying tokkan. im just trying to get him faster sooner.
youre entire post is spot-on. good info, good help.

I know you didn't mean nothing wrong, I just tried to add info to your post, as a minimum almost guaranteed clock, I added what would be a nice clock and some spec's for it.
We are all here to help and be helped, we just need to be asked what kind of help they want us to provide.

Overclocking has to be made step by step, increasing little by little, you have to set goal's and you need to know what results to expect.
After achieving one goal you just carry on to the other, so that if something goes wrong you can always step back and start from there again.

I've seen people that never hit 4.0Ghz but those same people didn't give them self the trouble to found out why.
My CPU has a 4.2Ghz limit where the voltage and temperature increases too much to be worth it, I can run it nice and cool @ 4.1Ghz with 1.42v or push 100Mhz and I'll have to add volts that simply shoot my temps to uncomfortable areas.

@OP The difference from my Phenom at 3.2Ghz to 4.0Ghz with the CPU-NB @ 3Ghz is simply amazing. It's day and night in everything, from system responsiveness, boot times, gaming FPS's and gaming smoothness.
4Ghz Phenom II is on par with a stock i5 2500k most of the time.
Edit: Didn't you have an Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5? Atleast it's in your system spec's confused.gif
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Sorry for doing a new post but the other one was already too big...
You don't need to check your board revision, all you have to do is count the VRM's.
I marked them in red circles so its easier for you to identify them in your board.


@OP Please read this: About VRMs & Mosfets / Motherboard Safety
Edited by Tokkan - 11/8/12 at 2:39pm
post #38 of 68
you can amd's top of the line 8350 for 200, or an i5 and you'll need a new motherboard obviously for around 300. Honestly piledriver has been pretty impressive, should take a look at some of the reviews.


Performance with all threads win goes to the 8350 but your gaming mostly, so you'd get a few percent better performance in cpu heavy games with the i5.
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Originally Posted by Tokkan View Post

Sorry for doing a new post but the other one was already too big...
You don't need to check your board revision, all you have to do is count the VRM's.
I marked them in red circles so its easier for you to identify them in your board.

@OP Please read this: About VRMs & Mosfets / Motherboard Safety

My motherboard shows 4 of those
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My motherboard shows 4 of those

Didnt your Sig list a 990fxa-ud5 earlier?
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