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I am sorry, but that MB is not a great overclocker, especially on the higher draw cpu's. You are going to either get frustrated or have a barn fire before too long. Personally, since you have a Microcenter nearby and you don't sound to ethusiastic about overclocking, just go get a 3570K for $170 plus an Asrock Pro4 for $50 after discount, so $220 plus tax. Then spend $35 at Newegg for some 1600Mhz ram and you are done. Heck, pick up the H100 while you are at since it is on sale right now. Once you get it setup, go into the Bios and select auto overclock and then MB will do it for you, probably end up aroun 4-4.2Ghz. You are done, simple as that.

Do I like my Intel setup? Sure do. Do i like my AMD setup? Definitely. But I have been overclocking since the 300A. I like my AMD setup so much it, I am combining my server (AMD) and gaming box into one unit and selling off my Intel parts. Why? Because i only need one setup and the Piledriver is pretty sweeit.
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Trying to overclock reminded me of why I don't like overclocking.. I tried a few settings yesterday and is it me or has overclocking gotten much more complicated than it was a few years ago ( think AMD Athlon XP 2400 ). I tried a lot of settings! My FSB won't go to 300 Mhz even with more voltage. I'm tired of removing my video card to get to the CMOS clearing pins after a failed boot. My days of overclocking are long gone I just don't have the patience for it much anymore, I'd rather spend more money on a system that I can run at stock or close to stock tongue.gif

I found that an upgrade to a 3570k and Z77 mobo will only run me $290 from Microcenter! I'm going to go with that option, I also hear that it's ultra easy to OC.. let's hope so
It's not that overclocking has gotten complicated, your motherboard just isn't up for the challenge. I have the same motherboard and there is good reason they give those boards away free with some Micro Center combo deals. It's not that they are terrible boards, they are just pretty low end and can't handle overclocking some higher end end AMD chips. They can overclock dual-core CPUs fine (I've OCed an unlocked Sempron to 4GHz), quad-cores very minor, and hexa-cores not really much at all. One of the main problems is the 4+1 phase VRM design that can barely handle 95W stock CPUs, let alone overclocking them.

I would actually say that overclocking has become insanely trivial with unlocked multipliers on all of AMD's FX line and Intels K series CPUs. Back in the day we only had the base clock to work with or FSB as it used to be called before we had onboard memory controllers. Intel's strategy here actually hurt them in the overclocking community because besides minor OCs via Turbo, Intel CPUs since Sandy Bridge cannot be overclocked much at all with the base clock. The reason being they created a universal clock generator that impacts the entire system, more so then even before. Intel still has the edge with a superior architecture and efficiency.

I have a i5 3570K and they are great chips. I'm sure you'll be very happy with it and you'll get a killer deal from Micro Center. Enjoy the upgrade. Also as I and others have mentioned, don't forget to upgrade your RAM, as 4GB DDR3-1066 will really hold back that Ivy Bridge chip.
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Proof you are 5ghz stable

Nobody who knows anything about that chip would claim running at 5ghz.
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Amd phenom x2 6core. Ive got mine running at 5ghz.
I have 2 amd 6970s and get god like performance.
I would never touch intel for games.
Food for thought.
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Coming from an old AMD guy (965 BE) you will notice a very big difference with the i7. Go with the i7
 
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I maybe wrong but it seems unnecessary to swap out an average mobo and a cpu with overclock potential, you should be able to overclock safely to about 3.4Ghz on that mobo, you still wont get 99% gpu utilization but your fps should be 60+ with any game on any settings (Im running a Phenom II x4 960T unlocked to x6 at 4.0 Ghz and I get 99% utilization on my GTX560 and get fps of about 45+ on any game with any settings) If i was you id keep that system for a couple of months and save for a BEAST Intel cpu + mobo combination.

Also you may want to look into upgrading your ram to 8gb 1600Mhz as 4gb is getting a tad low these days.
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Over clock it to 3.2 3.4 and wait 2 weeks for black friday. u will be able to find great deal during that period
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Am I? Or am I detailing info I came accross and passing it to another person?
Who's making the assumptions now?
Cause if I do like you, and base what I say on my chip I'd say that there's no way in hell that chip is stuck in 3.2Ghz and that you are most likely doing something wrong.
But I don't go arround and take down people credibility cause of my bad experience/lack of knowledge, I simply pass my knowledge arround and give solutions.
A Phenom II typical max OC is 4Ghz. Not many go above 4Ghz, I specified the values I've seen that other people achieved with 4Ghz.
I appreciate the fact that you posted just to say that to me and nothing useful to the topic/OP.
Thanks
@OP Put your mobo/cpu on the marketplace... try to get some money back from your system.
In the end you did the correct choice.

I agree, my CPU may not be capable of getting near 4Ghz but I will still give it a slight try I shouldn't give up so easy here's exactly what I've done so far:

I set the CPU NB, RAM and HT link to super low speed in the BIOS

I then booted into windows to set the FSB with AMD OverDrive, I set the FSB to 286Mhz, resulted in HT Link @ 1744mhz , RAM @ 1144, CPU NB @ 1744, CPU @ 3796mhz

I then put the FSB to 300mhz and the system crashed..

I then was aggravated, the whole process of finding why my system crashed At that speed and tuning to get a stable overclock just seems daunting, are there any overclocking guides for the 1045T line or CPUs on here?

best guide.
this guide was the final piece which made overclocking click for me.
www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys/0_100
post #59 of 68
If you are going to overclock with that board atleast get some airflow on the vrm's, they will needvit since they dont have any kind of cooling.
post #60 of 68
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I decided to go ahead and do it!

Here's what I got:

Intel 3570k
ASRock Z77 extreme4 mobo
OCZ 90GB SSD 6Gb/s
8GB Corsiar balistex DDR3 RAM

All for $389 plus I will be selling my old setup for about $200~ the first thing that shocked my socks off was the ability to use a mouse in the BIOS and it has a folder type GUI, Wow! The system has a more responsive feel to it even in the BIOS, I feel like a made a good choice already and I'm not even finnished installing windows yet haha

When I installed the CPU I thought I broke it lol, it locks in super tight! Why is that?

Thanks all for the great advice! thumb.gif
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