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11/8/12 at 6:07am

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Hello. I'm looking for advice in buying new CPU that could solve bottleneck problem that i have with current build.
My specs are:
Intel Pentium E6500 2.93GHz
Motherboard: ASUS P5QPL-AM
RAM: 3GB DDR2
Graphics card: GeForce Gt 240 512MB DDR5
Supply: Corsair 550W CMPSU-550VXEU

I assume this is CPU problem because i found couple threads where people with this processor were given advice to replace it. Also i checked graphics card performance with MSI Afterburner. Running game made processor work with about 95% load and at the same time graphics card worked at about 30-40% (there were visible FPS drops).
I found couple advices about CPU replacement (like g850) but this processors seems to be not supported by my motherboard. And this is issue because i would like to leave current motherboard. As i understand only supported products are listed here http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/P5QPLAM/#CPUS .
I should add that my budget is limited buy i hope there will be no need for something very expensive to fix this build. So i would like to ask for advice in selection of new part.

When buying PC i asked for good quality supply so i hope it can stay.

Sorry for my english.

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11/8/12 at 6:14am

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Your best bet would be to scrap everything but the PSU and do a budget build. An i3, cheap mobo, 4gb of ram, and an HD 7770 would go a long way for you. You could get it all for around $350.

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128gb Crucial M4	Seagate 3TB	LG DVD-RW	ZEROTherm ZT-10D
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11/8/12 at 6:15am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hermitmaster

Your best bet would be to scrap everything but the PSU and do a budget build. An i3, cheap mobo, 4gb of ram, and an HD 7770 would go a long way for you. You could get it all for around $350.

Agree

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11/8/12 at 6:26am

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what is a realistic budget for you?
if budget isnt big get a decent 775 quad core Q6600 or above, can be found fairly cheap
i dont think cpu is only bottleneck as that gpu isnt to good either

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i5 2500K@ 4.5	ASUS P8P67 LE	GTX 460 2Gb 805/1800/1650	samsung 30nm 4x2Gb
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western digital black caviar	DVD+R DL	Cooler Master HYPER 212 EVO	120mmx2 front intake. 120mm side intake aimed a...
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core2duo e2200	GA-G33-DSR	GT220	4Gb DDR2 800
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WD 500G	LG DVD R DL	2 80mm green led intakes	aywun V4 cpu cooler push pull
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i3 2100	ASUS P8H61 M USB3	ASUS 8800 GT	8Gb 1333
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western digital black caviar	DVD+R DL	Cooler Master HYPER 212 EVO	120mmx2 front intake. 120mm side intake aimed a...
OS	OS	Monitor	Monitor
Windows 8 PRO x64	ubuntu 12.xx	ASUS 23" HD LED WS 2MS (VH238H)	ASUS 24" HD LED WS 2MS
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desk	logitech 2.1
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i3 2100	ASUS P8H61 M USB3	ASUS 8800 GT	8Gb 1333
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11/8/12 at 6:40am

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This is what I would do in your situation...
Budget Upgrade (Click to show)

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Pentium G850 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Zotac H61MAT-A-E Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($42.81 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($115.50 @ NCIX US)
Total: $261.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Staying at the 775 socket will be a waste. The CPUs are far to expensive for the performance increase you will be getting. It is much better to switch over to the 1155 socket.

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i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable	ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3	EVGA GTX 680 (SLI)	EVGA GTX 680 (SLI)
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32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X	256GB Crucial M4	1.5 TB HDD	XSPC Raystorm RS360
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Windows 7 Professional	3 x Dell S2309W(Portrait) 3240x1920	Corsair AX750	Corsair 800D
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SWTOR Razer Naga	Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium	Samson RH600	Razer Nostromo
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XSPC RS120	8 x GT AP-15s	White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750	2 x EK-FC680 GTX 680 Waterblocks
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Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz	Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus	Asus Radeon HD 7750	2x4 GB 1333Mhz
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500GB WD Black	64 GB Crucial M4	Sony CD/DVD burner	H40 w/ GT AP-15s
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Windows 7 Home 64 bit	Corsair CX430	APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink
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Pentium G620	Foxconn H67S ITX	Intel HD 2000	2 x 4GB 1333Mhz
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i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable	ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3	EVGA GTX 680 (SLI)	EVGA GTX 680 (SLI)
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling
32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X	256GB Crucial M4	1.5 TB HDD	XSPC Raystorm RS360
OS	Monitor	Power	Case
Windows 7 Professional	3 x Dell S2309W(Portrait) 3240x1920	Corsair AX750	Corsair 800D
Mouse	Audio	Audio	Other
SWTOR Razer Naga	Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium	Samson RH600	Razer Nostromo
Other	Other	Other	Other
XSPC RS120	8 x GT AP-15s	White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750	2 x EK-FC680 GTX 680 Waterblocks
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz	Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus	Asus Radeon HD 7750	2x4 GB 1333Mhz
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
500GB WD Black	64 GB Crucial M4	Sony CD/DVD burner	H40 w/ GT AP-15s
OS	Power	Case
Windows 7 Home 64 bit	Corsair CX430	APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink
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Pentium G620	Foxconn H67S ITX	Intel HD 2000	2 x 4GB 1333Mhz
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS	Power
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11/8/12 at 7:24am

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Thank you all for help. Well i was afraid that there will be no hope. I can't really change motherboard because i extensively use serial and parallel port it's just much simpler than trying to find working converters. Same thing with staying on 32 bit system, trying to get programs to work in virtual box (as some of my friends are forced to do) would reflect on my physical health

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I think answer i got from you is simple. It's better to just build new PC rather than spend money on new parts. As for budget, i was hoping for less than proposed ~300, but it make much more sense to get more funds than to throw money away.
So again thanks for help! Now i know what i'm standing on.

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11/8/12 at 7:53am

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The HD7770 is going for around $100 which can handle most of the modern games just fine.

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11/9/12 at 7:10am

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get a used q6600 for ~$50 like here --> http://www.overclock.net/t/1325110/for-sale-2-q6600-intel-qore-2-quad-processors.

Then as suggested above get one of these --> http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11201-00-20G-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B00782U10W/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1352473723&sr=1-1&keywords=7770

for way under $200 it would be like getting a new computer.

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11/9/12 at 8:06am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1337

get a used q6600 for ~$50 like here --> http://www.overclock.net/t/1325110/for-sale-2-q6600-intel-qore-2-quad-processors.
Then as suggested above get one of these --> http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11201-00-20G-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B00782U10W/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1352473723&sr=1-1&keywords=7770
for way under $200 it would be like getting a new computer.

i agrre with this guy.... then save for an even better rig in the future

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
i5 2500K@ 4.5	ASUS P8P67 LE	GTX 460 2Gb 805/1800/1650	samsung 30nm 4x2Gb
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
western digital black caviar	DVD+R DL	Cooler Master HYPER 212 EVO	120mmx2 front intake. 120mm side intake aimed a...
OS	OS	Monitor	Monitor
Windows 8 PRO x64	ubuntu 12.xx	ASUS 23" HD LED WS 2MS (VH238H)	ASUS 24" HD LED WS 2MS
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
cooler master quickfire pro red cherry MX	seasonic G series 650W gold plus	NZXT SOURCE 210	cooler master sentinel advance II
Mouse Pad	Audio
desk	logitech 2.1
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
core2duo e2200	GA-G33-DSR	GT220	4Gb DDR2 800
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
WD 500G	LG DVD R DL	2 80mm green led intakes	aywun V4 cpu cooler push pull
OS	Monitor	Power	Case
windows 7 home premium	50 inch HD plasma	500W Big ant	home built acrylic black
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
i3 2100	ASUS P8H61 M USB3	ASUS 8800 GT	8Gb 1333
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Power
250Gb seagate barracuda	CM 212+	W7 64 Bit	coolermaster extreme powerplus 550W
Case
nzxt source 210
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
i5 2500K@ 4.5	ASUS P8P67 LE	GTX 460 2Gb 805/1800/1650	samsung 30nm 4x2Gb
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
western digital black caviar	DVD+R DL	Cooler Master HYPER 212 EVO	120mmx2 front intake. 120mm side intake aimed a...
OS	OS	Monitor	Monitor
Windows 8 PRO x64	ubuntu 12.xx	ASUS 23" HD LED WS 2MS (VH238H)	ASUS 24" HD LED WS 2MS
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
cooler master quickfire pro red cherry MX	seasonic G series 650W gold plus	NZXT SOURCE 210	cooler master sentinel advance II
Mouse Pad	Audio
desk	logitech 2.1
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
core2duo e2200	GA-G33-DSR	GT220	4Gb DDR2 800
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
WD 500G	LG DVD R DL	2 80mm green led intakes	aywun V4 cpu cooler push pull
OS	Monitor	Power	Case
windows 7 home premium	50 inch HD plasma	500W Big ant	home built acrylic black
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
i3 2100	ASUS P8H61 M USB3	ASUS 8800 GT	8Gb 1333
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Power
250Gb seagate barracuda	CM 212+	W7 64 Bit	coolermaster extreme powerplus 550W
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nzxt source 210
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11/9/12 at 1:35pm

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there is no bottleneck with your current setup, unless your harddrive is a caviar green 5400rpm which is very slow but you didnt mention what harddrive you had.
The Intel E6500 2.93GHz dualcore is more than fast enough to be paired with a GeForce Gt 240. I would say you can even get good FPS with a GTS 250 or GTS 450.
Any faster card than those and you might experience a bottleneck.

Sell your GT 240 and get a better card for starters. Even the old 9800GT will be a lot better

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD FX 6100 4.0 Ghz 6-core	Asus M5A78L-MLX3 AM3+	Sapphire HD6850 1GB	16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LP 1600
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Seagate 1TB	Seagate 1TB	Sony DVDRW	CoolerMaster Hyper212+ with 2x140mm Deepcool UF140
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2GB Kingston DDR3 1333	500GB Seagate	500GB Hitachi	Sony DVDRW
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Seagate 1TB	Seagate 1TB	Sony DVDRW	CoolerMaster Hyper212+ with 2x140mm Deepcool UF140
OS	Monitor	Power	Case
Windows Ultimate x64	Dell E2011H 20 inch LED	Aerocool Strike-X 500watts	CoolerMaster Elite 430
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A4tech X7 710BH
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
i5 3470	not decided	Sapphire HD6850	32GB Corsair Vengeance LP 1600
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
Seagate 500GB	Hitachi 500GB	WD Caviar Blue 1TB	Sony DVDRW
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not decided	Raidmax Cobra
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Phenom II X4 B55 3.3 Ghz	ECS MCP61M-M3	Sapphire HD6850 1GB	4GB Kingston DDR3 1333
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive
2GB Kingston DDR3 1333	500GB Seagate	500GB Hitachi	Sony DVDRW
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
CoolerMaster Hyper212+	Windows 7 64	Dell 20" LCD	A4tech KB 28G
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