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Hi guys.
I'm trying to overclock for the first time my GTX 580 SOC but there are some things that bring questions to my mind.
I'm new to overclocking, so I've tried to follow the safest settings I can find online for my card. It's made for Overclocking and from what I read online it seems to cope fairly well with 950 Mhz (Standard clock is 855), so I decided to give it a go, but there are issues.
1. Voltage: Well, I discovered that my card runs at 1.12 mv by default. MSI Afterburner gives that as the standard setting, OC Guru too, even if it's dynamic so it moves a bit.
The strange thing is that from the review I'm reading, the 580 SOC tested online were running much lower default voltages, around 1.00. A voltage of 1.125 mv is what they get when people try to push them beyond the 900 mhz mark. How can it be? My card runs fine and it's 8 months old now, but I suddenly fear that the default voltage is too high.
2. Clock: keep in mind that my voltage is always 1.12 mv. While overclocking I didn't change it because I felt that it was high enough... So, I tried to move from 855 mhz, by steps of 10 (I'm using MSI Afterburner so shaders clock goes up accordingly). Up to 900 it seems to be fine, but I don't see a big performance gain in terms of FPS. 920 seems still ok, 930 gives me some stutters, 940 the rig crashes after 2 mins of play, 950 it crashes as soon as the game is launched.
That's a bit strange, because it seems that the 580 SOC should cope with 950 easily.
Temperatures are under control, never over the 75°C mark, so that's not the reason. What else could it be?
Here is my rig:
CPU: Intel i5 760 2.8 Ghz
Motherboard: Asus P7P55D-E
RAM: 2 x 2GB Corsair XMS DDR3
Hard Disk: Samsung HD103SJ 1TB
Graphic Card: Gigabyte GTX 580 SOC
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster P2470 HD
Power Unit: Corsair TX650
OS: Windows 7 64 bit
Case: Cooler Master Centurion + 3 fans (enermax, cooler master)
Thanks in advance for your help!


Hi,

GTX 580s tend to have different stock voltages. My Gigabyte GTX 580 was running at 1.062, at stock, IIRC.
From my experience 580s are bad overclockers. I could get mine to around 830-850 but that was with voltage increases, which leaded to higher temps, etc.

I beg to differ, you just got to get lucky with the GPU picks.

Good example, my old GTX 580 3GB i got NEW could only hit 925 at 1.212V so i was able to back it down to 1.138V @ 79C

My Gently Used 580 SC i got now can do 1002+Mhz at 1.175V with R296 Drivers @76C And i pulled off a 1450Mhz at 1.275V on Propane @ 16C. But I'm now at 990 at 1.212V for F@H. @ 74C (F@H is brutal lol)
Edited by PimpSkyline - 11/10/12 at 12:28pm
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I know that there must be a bit of luck with the GPUs, but as SOC and SC are cherry-picked, I expect it to do at least 950 Mhz comfortably.

Anyway, given the lack of performance even compared to a stock 580 and considering that even pushing her to 930 Mhz I see no gain, I decided to try and remove the CPU Bottleneck.
I'm waiting for the delivery of a new heatskink in order to OC my i5 760 to 3.8 Ghz. Once that's done I will push the GPU.

Thanks to everybody for the advices, I will post news asap!
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I know that there must be a bit of luck with the GPUs, but as SOC and SC are cherry-picked, I expect it to do at least 950 Mhz comfortably.

Anyway, given the lack of performance even compared to a stock 580 and considering that even pushing her to 930 Mhz I see no gain, I decided to try and remove the CPU Bottleneck.
I'm waiting for the delivery of a new heatskink in order to OC my i5 760 to 3.8 Ghz. Once that's done I will push the GPU.

Thanks to everybody for the advices, I will post news asap!

Okay let us know smile.gif

Well your right, SC and SOC are binned GPU's, but even in that bin you got difference in OC ability. You see what i can do with my SC one, so i would hope you could OC good also.
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What Pad??? >_< Gateway 2.1 System 
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