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G500? I love mine smile.gif
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Well I just researched all the mice suggested so far, and here's what I came to conclude:

logitech g700
Too expensive, features I don't need.

razr mamba 2012
Too expensive, features I don't need.

logitech g400
Not wireless

cyborg g9
Not wireless

zowie am-gs
Not wireless

I'm not sure people read my requirements and just took it as a 'list your mouse' thread..?

I had a logitech wireless optical mouse back when they were just coming in, it was silver and blue and weighed quite a lot, cost me £40 and lasted several years. It must be possible to get a competent mouse on a budget if I could buy that back then...
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Originally Posted by auricgoldfinger View Post

I'm not sure people read my requirements and just took it as a 'list your mouse' thread..?
I had a logitech wireless optical mouse back when they were just coming in, it was silver and blue and weighed quite a lot, cost me £40 and lasted several years. It must be possible to get a competent mouse on a budget if I could buy that back then...

lol. Perhaps they just missed your "wireless" requirement. And most people can only recommend based on mice they have used.

To your opening post, I must say that even the best gaming mouse benefits from having a mousepad thumb.gif without a mousepad, tracking becomes table-surface dependent, which may or may not give your mouse good tracking.

There are some benefits with a "gaming mouse". First, adjustable DPI so that you can get the speed you want directly from the mouse, without having to rely on the interpolation done by windows mouse driver (by speeding up) or the faulty algorithm (by speeding down). Second, they have better sensor accuracy (provided a suitable surface) under more extreme movements. Third, they usually have a number of side buttons with good programmability which may be useful to you (or not). The list could go on, but the most important is whether you find these benefits useful for you biggrin.gif

So, to suit your needs, here are some more popular wireless gaming mice on the market (roughly from cheapest to most expensive, and price depends on the area you are located)
Roccat Pyra Wireless - weaker sensor but still ok, small and light. No wired mode, but can charge through USB. Uses AAA batteries.
Logitech G700 - laser sensor that may track better on more surfaces but has some small amounts of random positive/negative acceleration that might affect your use. Wired mode, uses AA batteries and charges through USB.
Razer Orochi - laser sensor that some people experience bug or issues with, but fine for others. Small and light mouse, uses AA batteries and bluetooth, with wired mode.
Razer Mamba - sensor similar to Orochi (but newer). Big with ergonomics for right hand, kinda heavy, uses proprietary li-ion batteries, charges through USB cable with wired mode.
Razer Ouroboros - sensor similar to the one used on G700 (but newer). Ambidextrous shape with certain adjustments you can make. Kinda heavy, uses proprietary li-ion batteries, charges through USB cable with wired mode.
Cyborg R.A.T.9 - sensor similar to Orochi (but newer). Big and heavy with various adjustments that you can make. Uses proprietary li-ion batteries (a spare is provided) which you can swap quickly during gaming session as battery life drains.

One thing to note about these wireless gaming mice is that their battery life are usually short. Usually just last for half a day or a few hours, depends on how you use them. G700 might last longer for 1-2 days. Also, other than the first 3 mice (Pyra, G700, Orochi) it seems that the other mice use large proprietary wireless receiver which might not be good for mobile use.

If battery life is a concern, then just get a non-gaming mouse rolleyes.gif Logitech's ones are quite good, get one that fit your hand.

edit: Since you seems to be on a budget, you may want the non-gaming options afterall rolleyes.gif
Edited by raisinbun - 11/8/12 at 11:04pm
post #14 of 20
If you could tell what kind of grip you use and if you have large or small hands it would be easier to help you. Also if wires annoy you too much consider if you would get a wired mouse with a mousebungee

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-accessories/razer-mouse-bungee
http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/accessories/Skorpion/
post #15 of 20
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Yes, I don't care if it's a gaming mouse, that seems to only matter in an fps if i'm not mistaken? I currently have a cheap-ass wireless mouse I bought for £5 off of ebay once... i'm only replacing it because it seems to have lost any traction on my desk surface (but does work on my bed, or my lap), and to my perhaps unrefined perception the movement feels smooth to me even now. Any gaming mouse looks like a rolls royce to me in terms of things I don't need, although I _do_ at least want the back and forward browsing buttons, and if any more buttons come free i'm not complaining. I'm wondering what i'm objectively paying for in these gaming mice that look like something off of robot wars...
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Originally Posted by raisinbun View Post

There are some benefits with a "gaming mouse". First, adjustable DPI so that you can get the speed you want directly from the mouse, without having to rely on the interpolation done by windows mouse driver (by speeding up) or the faulty algorithm (by speeding down). Second, they have better sensor accuracy (provided a suitable surface) under more extreme movements. Third, they usually have a number of side buttons with good programmability which may be useful to you (or not). The list could go on, but the most important is whether you find these benefits useful for you biggrin.gif
So, to suit your needs, here are some more popular wireless gaming mice on the market (roughly from cheapest to most expensive, and price depends on the area you are located)

I've seen adjustable dpi on a £10 mouse, which I assume isn't a 'gaming' mouse--isn't that just a marketting term? It's interesting that you listed the G700 as second cheapest, when I recoiled at the price. It seems you can invest a lot of money in any computer peripheral. I'm not actually on a budget, but someone else is buying it as gift and i'd like something else off of them as well, and I don't want them to pay 3-6x as much for a performance increase I won't even notice.
Edited by auricgoldfinger - 11/8/12 at 11:49pm
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post #16 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by auricgoldfinger View Post

Yes, I don't care if it's a gaming mouse, that seems to only matter in an fps if i'm not mistaken? I currently have a cheap-ass wireless mouse I bought for £5 off of ebay once... i'm only replacing it because it seems to have lost any traction on my desk surface (but does work on my bed, or my lap), and to my perhaps unrefined perception the movement feels smooth to me even now. Any gaming mouse looks like a rolls royce to me in terms of things I don't need, although I _do_ at least want the back and forward browsing buttons, and if any more buttons come free i'm not complaining. I'm wondering what i'm objectively paying for in these gaming mice that look like something off of robot wars...
I've seen adjustable dpi on a £10 mouse, which I assume isn't a 'gaming' mouse--isn't that just a marketting term? It's interesting that you listed the G700 as second cheapest, when I recoiled at the price. It seems you can invest a lot of money in any computer peripheral. I'm not actually on a budget, but someone else is buying it as gift and i'd like something else off of them as well, and I don't want them to pay 3-6x as much for a performance increase I won't even notice.

That's why I have said that you have to decide if those "extra juice" would benefit your use biggrin.gif and since you think they don't, you probably should not consider a gaming wireless mouse. Moreover, if you haven't tried and don't game much, you will be perfectly fine with any wireless mouse.

That said, of course there are some reasonably priced wireless mice that are better than those £5 ones, with maybe better reception, more functions and what nots.

May I ask what kind of surface you use your mouse on - if table top, is it glass, wood, metal, or other material? Is it reflective, glossy, matte, or transparent/translucent? In some cases, you need mice with more adaptive sensors (e.g. Logitech M905/M950); in most cases, you don't (e.g. Logitech M705).

One thing strange about Logitech mice suggested above though is their scroll wheels - not only do they have left-right tilting, there is a "free scroll" mode which you can always toggle that allows low-friction inertia scrolling.

I'm not familiar with low price wireless offerings from Microsoft or other companies redface.gif
post #17 of 20
If i had to have a wireless mouse it would be the g700
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I think this is one of the best choices available nowdays for a casual user. I believe at least has 800 real cpi (maybe the 1600 step is interpolled).

http://www.amazon.com/Genius-DX-ECO-ECO-Friendly-Battery-Free-BlueEye/dp/B007DAK1AO

No batteries (uses a capacitor, so it's lighter), wireless, flying wheel feature (the g500 users know about this), nice shape.
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I think this is one of the best choices available nowdays for a casual user. I believe at least has 800 real cpi (maybe the 1600 step is interpolled).
http://www.amazon.com/Genius-DX-ECO-ECO-Friendly-Battery-Free-BlueEye/dp/B007DAK1AO
No batteries (uses a capacitor, so it's lighter), wireless, flying wheel feature (the g500 users know about this), nice shape.

Thanks. Already ended up settling on one though, Logitech m305. I think the more recent models lack a middle mouse button. Went with the ugly-ass yellow version because it was cheaper.
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Logitech G400, G500 and G700
SteelSeries Ikari Laser/Optical if you can find one
Mionix Naos 3200/5000
Razer Deathadder (Only if you can't find the G400, cuz the G400 beats it in almost every aspect)
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