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A 480 consumed more power than a 5970 and easily broke 100C. It's simply not comparable to the current gen.
580 vs 6970, however, is much more like the current situation. The 580 consumes around 40-50W more power and delivers better performance, especially when overclocked.

I was simply comparing it to the power consumption of the 480. These 7990 draw over 200W more that the GTX690 for a small bump in performance. Kinda like the 480 uses a lot more power and barely beats the 5870.
The 480 came months late, drew a lot more power but was better than the 5870.
This custom 7990 came months late, draws a lot more power but its better than the 680. smile.gif

And just for my peace of mind, the 480 doesn't really get to 100c easily and I speak this from personal experience and I have the proof to back it up. I wont post it here since it would be completely off topic but I'll send you a PM with it. thumb.gif
Edited by Cryptedvick - 11/11/12 at 10:45am
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A 480 consumed more power than a 5970 and easily broke 100C. It's simply not comparable to the current gen.
580 vs 6970, however, is much more like the current situation. The 580 consumes around 40-50W more power and delivers better performance, especially when overclocked.

I was simply comparing it to the power consumption of the 480. These 7990 draw over 200W more that the GTX680 for a small bump in performance. Kinda like the 480 uses a lot more power and barely beats the 5870.
The 480 came months late, drew a lot more power but was better than the 5870.
This custom 7990 came months late, draws a lot more power but its better than the 680. smile.gif

And just for my peace of mind, the 480 doesn't really get to 100c easily and I speak this from personal experience and I have the proof to back it up. I wont post it here since it would be completely off topic but I'll send you a PM with it. thumb.gif

They were shown to draw 200W more power in bitcoin mining which it does like 10x faster than the 690. In Crysis the difference was 80-90W.

NVIDIA definitely has the advantage of coming out first. I don't know why AMD themselves have refused to produce a dual-GPU card.

Perhaps if you take good care of the card it'll run fairly cool compared to somewhat rushed reviews but that's true for every card.
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Indeed. I hate when someone says something to me for wanting to overclock 2 680 Lightnings - "One is enough, why in the world would you want to overclock two?" Well, get a 120hz monitor and then answer your own question wink.gif

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Almost forgot 3D. smile.gif Turning on 3D Vision cuts FPS by roughly 45%. Some don't know that and 60 FPS is optimal for 3D Vision. I go from 120 FPS to 65 FPS instantly. It's just enough card to handle 3D Vision with graphic settings turned up some.

Yerp, If you are running 1920 x 1080p monitor at 60Hz, 2x High end GPU is actually overkill....
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I loves me some Minecraft biggrin.gif. I put 100x more time and enjoyment into it than I did BF3, and I really liked BF3. MC is just addicting. I can't wait to get my new GPU and 3rd montior so I can eyefinity some Minecraft smile.gif.
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They were shown to draw 200W more power in bitcoin mining which it does like 10x faster than the 690. In Crysis the difference was 80-90W.
NVIDIA definitely has the advantage of coming out first. I don't know why AMD themselves have refused to produce a dual-GPU card.
Perhaps if you take good care of the card it'll run fairly cool compared to somewhat rushed reviews but that's true for every card.

I'd trade 200w for 10x peformance tongue.gif.
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They were shown to draw 200W more power in bitcoin mining which it does like 10x faster than the 690. In Crysis the difference was 80-90W.
NVIDIA definitely has the advantage of coming out first. I don't know why AMD themselves have refused to produce a dual-GPU card.
Perhaps if you take good care of the card it'll run fairly cool compared to somewhat rushed reviews but that's true for every card.

I'd trade 200w for 10x peformance tongue.gif.

My bad actually, it only appears to be 7x faster in reality. tongue.gif
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My bad actually, it only appears to be 7x faster in reality. tongue.gif
still epic. Did they show that in this review? I can't find it anywhere. It WOULD show bias if they are showing the power draw in gpgpu, but not performance, would it not? rolleyes.gif
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My bad actually, it only appears to be 7x faster in reality. tongue.gif
still epic. Did they show that in this review? I can't find it anywhere. It WOULD show bias if they are showing the power draw in gpgpu, but not performance, would it not? rolleyes.gif

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

HD 7970 at 1200MHz gets about 720Mhash/s vs GTX 680 at 1100MHz getting about 110Mhash/s

Bitcoin mining is just one particular workload though; most GPGPU stuff they're way closer to each other with the 7990 probably winning most tests by a good margin.

The 690 does support CUDA though which a lot of GPGPU software is written around.
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Really. If your buying a 1000 dollar card do you care about power bills. The fastest is the fastest.

If you're buying 1000s of dollars worth of GPUs and care about your powerbills you also buy 1200+ platinum PSU to save money based off of efficency. But honestly do I care how much power my monster and three screen set-up consume? No. I could care less and everyone else I know who has beast set-ups doesn't either. Thats like owning a ferrari and complaining about running it.

Powercolor Devil 13 is such a nice card, good to see the HIS doing well. Not as pretty though. Wonder what the production enclosure will look like.

Shame you need radeonpro to enable vsync and that it still doesn't work properly (massive input lag) on the R7990 or I'd be running 4-Way crossfire for sure. Bigger shame the GTX 690 has 2Gb of VRAM but whatever. Enough complaining.
    
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They were shown to draw 200W more power in bitcoin mining which it does like 10x faster than the 690. In Crysis the difference was 80-90W.
NVIDIA definitely has the advantage of coming out first. I don't know why AMD themselves have refused to produce a dual-GPU card.
Perhaps if you take good care of the card it'll run fairly cool compared to somewhat rushed reviews but that's true for every card.

Well, its still maximum power draw. Even if it is 7 times faster at it (bitcoin). Look at the 480 compared to its then-at-the-time competitor, the 5870. It can fold circles around it.

Anyway, since you consider this power draw while bitcoin mining acceptable because it mines 7 times faster, here its running furmark, where no card has anything else to do but draw power and heat up. Still the huge 550W power draw. tongue.gif

Just to clear this out, my point still is that it draws significantly more power for a small increase in performance. And I really don't care about power draw as you can see from my sig. Just making a point.
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