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11/8/12 at 2:14pm
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Hi all I have this computer
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim3000/en/SM/specs.htm
and I am trying to convince my parents to upgrade to a better computer because, well come on its a 32-bit ddr2 system it needs to go. So really anything I should say to show them "look the computer is old and needs to go." Also any comments on the computer I have planed well be great. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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HDD: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881&vpn=WD10EALX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD
MOBO: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62274&vpn=M5A88-M&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1230
Processor: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76933&vpn=FD8320FRHKBOX&manufacture=AMD
VIDEO CARD: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=74741&vpn=HD7750-1GD5-V2&manufacture=ASUS

The computer well be used for minecraft and web browsing

thank you for any help you can give.

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11/8/12 at 2:18pm
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Just show them how it's going to be cheaper than buying a new computer from Dell. Find out how much they paid for the Dim 3000, then show them how you can build a much better computer for less $$$ --> then show them the warranties on the individual components so that they don't worry about warranty info.
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11/8/12 at 2:18pm
for just minecraft, that is overkill.
What i would do:
A10 5800k

Asrock FM2A75 Pro4

Samsung Wonder Ram 8GB

WD Caviar Blue 1TB

Antec Earthwatts 430W

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11/8/12 at 3:07pm
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for just minecraft, that is overkill.
What i would do:
A10 5800k
Asrock FM2A75 Pro4
Samsung Wonder Ram 8GB
WD Caviar Blue 1TB
Antec Earthwatts 430W
NZXT Gamma

I picked what I picked because they want something that well last A LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGG time and, because Knowing my dad he may give computer gaming a try so might as-well give him the opportunity.
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11/8/12 at 3:45pm
the motherboard doesnt even support an 8 core processor anyway...
if you are going to game, the 8 core is useless, and so is the 7750. Better Build (Click to show)
CPU $133
AMD FX 4300

Motherboard $95
Asrock 970 Extreme 3

Ram $35
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Video Card $160
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11/8/12 at 4:14pm
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the motherboard doesnt even support an 8 core processor anyway...
if you are going to game, the 8 core is useless, and so is the 7750. Better Build (Click to show)
CPU $133
AMD FX 4300
Motherboard $95
Asrock 970 Extreme 3
Ram $35
Corsair Vengeance 8GB
Video Card $160
MSI Geforce GTX 650Ti
HDD $75
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
PSU $45
Antec Neo Eco 450W

Don't like asrock and don't want a nvidia gpu.

edit: this says that it supports FX-xxxx cips so well it work?
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76798&vpn=M5A97%20LE%20R2.0&manufacture=ASUS
Edited by mk16 - 11/8/12 at 4:17pm
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11/8/12 at 4:36pm
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Don't like asrock and don't want a nvidia gpu.
edit: this says that it supports FX-xxxx cips so well it work?
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76798&vpn=M5A97%20LE%20R2.0&manufacture=ASUS

Don't see whats not to like about asrock but alas. That motherboard should do just fine, as for the GPU I'd go with either:

A 7770: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=72479&vpn=R7770-PMD1GD5&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1230
or a 7850 if it's not too much $$: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69494&vpn=GV-R785OC-2GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1230

As for the CPU, just grab an fx 6300. it's about $10 more but the extra performance definitely outweighs the cost.
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11/8/12 at 5:03pm
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Don't see whats not to like about asrock but alas. That motherboard should do just fine, as for the GPU I'd go with either:
A 7770: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=72479&vpn=R7770-PMD1GD5&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1230
or a 7850 if it's not too much $$: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69494&vpn=GV-R785OC-2GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1230
As for the CPU, just grab an fx 6300. it's about $10 more but the extra performance definitely outweighs the cost.

Not sure if you mean the FX-8350 but if you didn't I think your info is off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGBebNoy32E
but how about this? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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DVD:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69649&vpn=DRW-24B3ST%2FBLK%2FG%2FAS%20%28Retail%29&manufacture=ASUS
HDD:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881&vpn=WD10EALX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD
MOBO:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76798&vpn=M5A97%20LE%20R2.0&manufacture=ASUS
Processor: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76932&vpn=FD8350FRHKBOX&manufacture=AMD
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11/8/12 at 5:37pm
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Not sure if you mean the FX-8350 but if you didn't I think your info is off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGBebNoy32E
but how about this? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
RAM:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59431&vpn=CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B&manufacture=Corsair&promoid=1230
PSU:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76035&vpn=CP-9020047-US&manufacture=Corsair
DVD:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69649&vpn=DRW-24B3ST%2FBLK%2FG%2FAS%20%28Retail%29&manufacture=ASUS
HDD:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881&vpn=WD10EALX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD
MOBO:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76798&vpn=M5A97%20LE%20R2.0&manufacture=ASUS
Processor: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76932&vpn=FD8350FRHKBOX&manufacture=AMD
video card:http://ncix.com/products/?sku=72479&vpn=R7770-PMD1GD5&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1230

Yea sorry I meant over the aforementioned fx 4300. What I would personally do is scale down to an fx 6300 and grab a 7850 for more balanced performance. I would also ditch the hard drive and opt in for an SSD instead. Everything else seems to be pretty good.

Another option would be to stick with the 8350 and 7770 and upgrade the graphics card next year if that may be an option. It could also go the other way around if you go with the 6300 because AMD is retaining the AM3+ socket for the next generation.
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11/8/12 at 5:44pm
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scaling down is not an option because my parents want as cheap as possible computer that well also last a long time before an upgrade is needed. so if anything keep the fx-8350 and up the card to something better when prices go down more.
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