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11/8/12 at 6:08pm
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mk16 your build is unwise as it pairs an FX 8-core with a board that does not feature any VRM cooling. That should be changed around for better balance.


How I would do this:

  • FX-8320 - $175 [NCIX]
  • GA-970A-D3 - $90 [NCIX] with $10 rebate (note: tell NCIX that you must have a rev 1.3, 1.4 or 3.0 of this board. This is not just because those boards' VRM cooling make them better, but VRM cooling is actually a requirement for FX 8-core Vishera support in GIGABYTE motherboards. So the rev 1.0-1.2 won't support the 8320).
  • This RAM is cheaper
  • This PSU handily outperforms the CX-500V2 for $10 less than the after rebate price
  • Take the spare cash and get a better video card. In fact I would actually recommend that you take one more step down to an FX-6300 so that you enable a $70 savings which can get you a 7850, a much better video card. The loss of two cores won't hurt your needs at all. Even four would be plenty.

 

or take thepoopscooper's suggestion as it would be far more power efficient for something that would meet your needs for now and would continue to do that in the future through small-scale upgrades (i.e. next gen APUs with HSA features).

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11/8/12 at 6:26pm
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mk16 your build is unwise as it pairs an FX 8-core with a board that does not feature any VRM cooling. That should be changed around for better balance.


How I would do this:
  • FX-8320 - $175 [NCIX]
  • GA-970A-D3 - $90 [NCIX] with $10 rebate (note: tell NCIX that you must have a rev 1.3, 1.4 or 3.0 of this board. This is not just because those boards' VRM cooling make them better, but VRM cooling is actually a requirement for FX 8-core Vishera support in GIGABYTE motherboards. So the rev 1.0-1.2 won't support the 8320).
  • This RAM is cheaper
  • This PSU handily outperforms the CX-500V2 for $10 less than the after rebate price
  • Take the spare cash and get a better video card. In fact I would actually recommend that you take one more step down to an FX-6300 so that you enable a $70 savings which can get you a 7850, a much better video card. The loss of two cores won't hurt your needs at all. Even four would be plenty.

or take thepoopscooper's suggestion as it would be far more power efficient for something that would meet your needs for now and would continue to do that in the future through small-scale upgrades (i.e. next gen APUs with HSA features).


oh dear your right.... now i have to buy a case too for an atx board.

ok how about my list with the addition of the board you linked I guess the FX-6300 well do and then this Video card
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=73627&vpn=HD7870-DC2-2GD5-V2&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1230
and a custom home-made case.

and if all that is still bad I'll come back to it on the weekend when I can take a break from school and take my time with it all.
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11/9/12 at 2:03pm
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oh dear your right.... now i have to buy a case too for an atx board.
ok how about my list with the addition of the board you linked I guess the FX-6300 well do and then this Video card
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=73627&vpn=HD7870-DC2-2GD5-V2&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1230
and a custom home-made case.
and if all that is still bad I'll come back to it on the weekend when I can take a break from school and take my time with it all.

If you decide to make a custom case for god's sakes be careful not to short out the board. biggrin.gif

I've heard of people making computer cases out of wood.
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11/9/12 at 2:07pm
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The computer well be used for minecraft and web browsing
thank you for any help you can give.
mk16

For this get an FM2 platform APU.
The 5700 APU is excellent ,sucks less than the other unlocked ones (K suffix ) and performs similar.
65 W TDP envelope.
You wouldn t need a 83xx series CPU for browsing.
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11/9/12 at 3:34pm
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For this get an FM2 platform APU.
The 5700 APU is excellent ,sucks less than the other unlocked ones (K suffix ) and performs similar.
65 W TDP envelope.
You wouldn t need a 83xx series CPU for browsing.

one I'm making it out of wood.... how did you know.
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If you decide to make a custom case for god's sakes be careful not to short out the board. biggrin.gif
I've heard of people making computer cases out of wood.

Two I want high end parts because my parents wont upgrade this computer for 4-6 years.

also now that I have the time I was thinking this for my new list


DVD: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69649&vpn=DRW-24B3ST%2FBLK%2FG%2FAS%20%28Retail%29&manufacture=ASUS
RAM: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59431
HDD:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63571&vpn=WD10EARX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD
MOBO:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61850&vpn=GA-990XA-UD3&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1230
PSU:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76036&vpn=CP-9020048-US&manufacture=Corsair
CPU:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76932&vpn=FD8350FRHKBOX&manufacture=Others
Video Card:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=72479&vpn=R7770-PMD1GD5&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1230
Wait till the holidays and prices should go down a bit.
I'll crossfire when more money is avalible

But any ways hows that build looking. Don’t care if it is over powered for what it well be used for because it needs to last 5+ years.
Edited by mk16 - 11/9/12 at 4:04pm
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11/9/12 at 7:02pm
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one I'm making it out of wood.... how did you know.
Two I want high end parts because my parents wont upgrade this computer for 4-6 years.
also now that I have the time I was thinking this for my new list
DVD: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69649&vpn=DRW-24B3ST%2FBLK%2FG%2FAS%20%28Retail%29&manufacture=ASUS
RAM: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59431
HDD:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63571&vpn=WD10EARX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD
MOBO:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61850&vpn=GA-990XA-UD3&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1230
PSU:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76036&vpn=CP-9020048-US&manufacture=Corsair
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Video Card:http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=72479&vpn=R7770-PMD1GD5&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1230
Wait till the holidays and prices should go down a bit.
I'll crossfire when more money is avalible
But any ways hows that build looking. Don’t care if it is over powered for what it well be used for because it needs to last 5+ years.

If you can get a good SSD for cheap on black friday get an SSD rather than the hard drive, otherwise if you really need the space just go with the hard drive. Also if you don't want to deal with the headache that comes with 7xxx crossfire you can always just upgrade the card instead in the future instead of crossfiring. Other than that it looks pretty decent.

Don't forget the purpose of building a custom PC is so you know what's going in and having the ability to upgrade when the time comes.
Edited by Cheeseinat0r - 11/9/12 at 7:04pm
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11/9/12 at 7:43pm
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If you can get a good SSD for cheap on black friday get an SSD rather than the hard drive, otherwise if you really need the space just go with the hard drive. Also if you don't want to deal with the headache that comes with 7xxx crossfire you can always just upgrade the card instead in the future instead of crossfiring. Other than that it looks pretty decent.
Don't forget the purpose of building a custom PC is so you know what's going in and having the ability to upgrade when the time comes.

SSD is out of the question wouldn’t have the money and the way my dad is with photos he would fill a 128gb one in a week and a 256gb one in a year. on the subject of the video card I'm most likely going to wait till the holidays and go for a 7870 then. but other then that the list is a good family PC that well last 5+ years?
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11/9/12 at 9:17pm
High end parts = high end cash. What is your budget or we can go about this thread all year long.
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11/9/12 at 9:21pm
high end, future proof costs alot more! you know how fast technology advances!?? cmon now.
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11/9/12 at 9:34pm
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high end, future proof costs alot more! you know how fast technology advances!?? cmon now.

There is no future proof in this game. $1k in parts now is $200 in a year. Thanks for making my point.
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