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post #11 of 28
11/8/12 at 4:25pm
The stocks doesn't matter at this point for apple lol. It sucks but nothing has changed about the company, their still making record profits, with highly grossed margins. The stocks are misrepresenting the company as of now. Watch it go up and pass it's last high sometime next year...
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post #12 of 28
11/8/12 at 4:38pm
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bubbles always burst.

Apple had an affordable P/E. It was a relative bargain then, and it's very low priced now. It has a P/E under 10, so it's total stock value is under 10 years of profit at current numbers. That's not even close to a bubble, the company is pulling in huge amounts of cash, has a country sized bank, a brand image that's far stronger than their competition, and power over their suppliers that nobody else can touch (custom Intel processors, getting tech early, etc). Calling a stock a bubble is wrong when the stock is comparatively lower priced than most other tech companies.

Market value means nothing? It means something! Apple's undervalued status means people expect Apple to lose their margins, lose their customers, or fail to innovate in the fairly near future, because if they were to continue to grow at even 1/2 of their current rate it would be a screaming buy.
Edited by mechtech - 11/8/12 at 4:40pm
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post #13 of 28
11/8/12 at 4:43pm
Investing is about perceived value and potential. In the scheme of things Apple is nothing special and once their profits stabilize people will lose interest unless Apple makes a new product like the iPhone that makes a huge splash and shows potential for big growth. There are bigger, greater, and more stable companies but you don't see people building them up unrealistically because they seldom bring out products that bring about a paradigm shift in the market. Apple won't collapse, they'll simply come to a relatively stable range.
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post #14 of 28
11/8/12 at 4:59pm
I think it is a culmination of factors.
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  1. iPhone 5 launch(quality control issues with the camera, metal coating, and maps) and generally not being as ground-breaking as previous launches
  2. Samsung outselling the iPhone/Competition
  3. Tim Cook's incompetence
  4. Underwhelming iPad Mini
  5. Rushed iPad 4
  6. Underwhelming 13" Macbook Pro with Retina display

Hopefully they continue to fall so that we see a real shakeup and the board ushers in new leadership.
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post #15 of 28
11/8/12 at 5:12pm
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Apple had an affordable P/E. It was a relative bargain then, and it's very low priced now. It has a P/E under 10, so it's total stock value is under 10 years of profit at current numbers. That's not even close to a bubble, the company is pulling in huge amounts of cash, has a country sized bank, a brand image that's far stronger than their competition, and power over their suppliers that nobody else can touch (custom Intel processors, getting tech early, etc). Calling a stock a bubble is wrong when the stock is comparatively lower priced than most other tech companies.
Market value means nothing? It means something! Apple's undervalued status means people expect Apple to lose their margins, lose their customers, or fail to innovate in the fairly near future, because if they were to continue to grow at even 1/2 of their current rate it would be a screaming buy.

you hit the nail in the head.
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11/8/12 at 5:17pm
So if they release the iPhone 6... another $130B?
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11/8/12 at 5:21pm
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apple could fold 5 times......still wouldn't really matter. but yes this is in a good direction. American country or not.....it stores most of its money over seas and most of the employees are chinese.....
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post #18 of 28
11/8/12 at 5:24pm
It's not low enough. It needs to go down even more.
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post #19 of 28
11/8/12 at 6:02pm
It seems that most of you guys are oblivious of the market trends... look at Google, or most companies on the NASDAQ composite; they have undergone a very similar decrease in their market cap.

So this has little to do with Apple and more with the market in general.
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11/8/12 at 6:03pm
down down down.....facebook next....
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