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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

I served in the military, and let's make something clear: civilian laws and military laws are far different. As a military member you CANNOT do whatever the hell you want, there are standards of behaviour that applies even when you're out of uniform (and on active duty) -- The SEAL members that shared classified info violated the UCMJ and if you violate the UCMJ (uniform code of military justice), you WILL pay the price.
I don't believe civvies will ever understand this. You can't break the rules in the military unless you want to see the man and lose rank / money. Losing rank when you're well into your career will break your ability to retire or even stay in. You can vilify the brass all you want -- but the SEAL members violated the UCMJ period. The UCMJ is black and white and has existed for a long time - you cannot ever, under any circumstance, share classified information.
This isn't the civilian world where you can BS your way out of breaking the rules. You break the rules and get caught while under military contract, you will get NJP'ed or court martialed for a serious offense. If any of these happen to you, it can destroy your life if severe enough, so obviously military members usually try to avoid being in the wrong -- military justice is harsh. Don't like it? They shouldn't have joined - they knew they were in the wrong by sharing this info, I am certain of this. All military members have a good understanding of what they can and cannot do, there are not many shades of gray here.

^this^

I've been out of the Navy for many years and am still not allowed to talk about a lot of the stuff I learned or did. For a valid reason I might add.

It's an old saying, but still valid: Lose lips sink ships.
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What are non-SEAL navy personnel called?

A lower form of Marine life.



lol!

Sailors.
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It's not "bad" per say, but when a game comes out and I realize it would have failed to impress me, say even 4 years ago...
Then I consider it bad. No innovation=bad game for me these days.
Honestly I think all of this seal stuff is playing a bigger picture for the military. Maybe for recruiting? idk. You have all these books that have been coming out, a movie made about seals portrayed by seals, TWO movies about the Osama Bin Laden raid (within a month). Now this. Those guys live by a code to pretty much not talk or brag and to be in the seals you really have to have that mentality about it to start with. Somethings up IMO.

They are trying to get more SEAL/SWCC as the general army is being withdrawn, but is in no way recruiting. As someone who is a few months out from DEPing in due to shoulder surgery, you have to want to be a SEAL. And as xoleras stated, they know what the he|| they are getting into.
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A lower form of Marine life.
lol!
Sailors.

Just remember you 'Marines' are still owned by the Navy.
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See? This is what happens when you do business with the devil EA.
     
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Ridiculous. A SEAL talks to a company in relative secrecy about SEAL tactics and he gets punished. Yet the President of the United States gives a speech for the whole world to hear and releases thousands of classified documents referring to the Osama raid. And nobody cares...
Just shameful that this level of hypocrisy. That a service member is punished for something this trivial in comparison to what has been "leaked" from the White House.

President of the United States = the boss.
SEAL = grunt... a very very very good one, but still a grunt.

But we trust our president that the information he shares should be heard.
Also... it's good to be the boss.
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In September, "No Easy Day," a book written under the pseudonym Mark Owen, was released to the public. The book gives a firsthand account of the killing of Osama bin Laden.
-http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/08/15030898-seals-punished-for-role-in-developing-medal-of-honor-video-game-official-says?lite

How are the accurate and in-depth books different from consulting on a video game? There's no uproar over this book right?
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post #39 of 116
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Just remember you 'Marines' are still owned by the Navy.

I was told we were a division of the Navy, but had our own separate funding...which was about 3% of the total defense budget LOL.

So the Marines aren't "owned" by the navy...just managed.

But the OP source is nothing new...they violated an article of the UCMJ and likely for money. I know of Marines that got in trouble for taking pictures that happened to have equipment in the back ground...even though that same equipment had been featured in popular mechanics. However, being paid money for even giving out tiny secrets?...that is a big deal and they are probably lucky

A lot of rights do not apply to service members...Heh, like the Bill of Rights for example. I got the you are now government property speech on day 1 of boot camp, and thought it was a scare tactic, but it is true. You do not have the right to free speech, you do not have the right to bare arms (must be kept in the armory and can be taken from you at any time), You always have soldiers in your house (LOL, but really, you always have an on duty "soldier" watching you), You can be searched at any time...even have your scivies checked, you are not protected from double jeopardy since if you get in trouble in civilian law you will get in trouble back on base as well...ect...I don't want to go down the whole list, but none of them apply.

Not saying that it is a bad idea to join the military...I wouldn't trade my time for anything. Just that it is a different world with different rules. You can't really understand it with out going though it.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 11/9/12 at 9:20am
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Says who? Ive played alot of the game and quite frankly, its superb.

Lmao its awful
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