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In one of the missions where you are in a sniper hide and firing onto a large complex... the fact that they actually used tables for position/support and were about 5 feet from the opening of their window was impressive; add a nice little netting in front of them and that is text book. Most video games just have two idiots at the highest point with their barrels hanging out the window.
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In one of the missions where you are in a sniper hide and firing onto a large complex... the fact that they actually used tables for position/support and were about 5 feet from the opening of their window was impressive; add a nice little netting in front of them and that is text book. Most video games just have two idiots at the highest point with their barrels hanging out the window.

Thanks redface.gif I'll keep an eye out for that scene, getting it soon.
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I served in the military, and let's make something clear: civilian laws and military laws are far different. As a military member you CANNOT do whatever the hell you want, there are standards of behaviour that applies even when you're out of uniform (and on active duty) -- The SEAL members that shared classified info violated the UCMJ and if you violate the UCMJ (uniform code of military justice), you WILL pay the price.
I don't believe civvies will ever understand this. You can't break the rules in the military unless you want to see the man and lose rank / money. Losing rank when you're well into your career will break your ability to retire or even stay in. You can vilify the brass all you want -- but the SEAL members violated the UCMJ period. The UCMJ is black and white and has existed for a long time - you cannot ever, under any circumstance, share classified information.
This isn't the civilian world where you can BS your way out of breaking the rules. You break the rules and get caught while under military contract, you will get NJP'ed or court martialed for a serious offense. If any of these happen to you, it can destroy your life if severe enough, so obviously military members usually try to avoid being in the wrong -- military justice is harsh. Don't like it? They shouldn't have joined - they knew they were in the wrong by sharing this info, I am certain of this. All military members have a good understanding of what they can and cannot do, there are not many shades of gray here.
10 pages late but... this. As stupid as I'd think it'd be if they got a harsh punishment for this, the UCMJ is there and setup the way it is for a reason. I am on the other hand, pretty sure they'll probably just get a slap on the wrist given their particular job. The SOF (Special Operations Forces) guys are given a little more slack then the rest of the military due to what they do, and the fact that they are 'owned' by SOCOM and not their particular branch of service. I dont think they would be too hard on somebody from the most elite of the SEAL teams over telling a video game publisher a couple tips for a game.
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What are non-SEAL navy personnel called?
Sailers
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It also depends on your rank. My best friend is in the Navy, he is a Fireman, so he would be referred to as Fireman X. If you're casually referring to someone in the Navy, the proper term would be Sailor, not Seaman (Seaman is actually a specific rank as well)
As is Airmen in USAF.
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What about Naval pilots (like Maverick and Goose, lol)! They referred to as sailors also?
They're Officers. Not enlisted.

Better end this quote train here...
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Ive watched numerous interviews with retired seals who have said that this us a career ending punishment. Excuse me if i take the word of someone who actually knows what he is talking about.

Well I'm currently active duty.... so excuse me for thinking I knew what I was talking about.

I'm sure things have changed in the last 15 or 25 years.... Back in the day, this probably hurt a lot more. But nowadays, not so much.

IN FACT, a Letter of Reprimand isn't even considered punishment... NCO's can issue them, and NCOs are do not have the power to legally punish. Only command level positions can do that.
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I thought the SEALs were all dead? When it comes to the ones that performed the Osama raid that is....
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Well I'm currently active duty.... so excuse me for thinking I knew what I was talking about.
I'm sure things have changed in the last 15 or 25 years.... Back in the day, this probably hurt a lot more. But nowadays, not so much.
IN FACT, a Letter of Reprimand isn't even considered punishment... NCO's can issue them, and NCOs are do not have the power to legally punish. Only command level positions can do that.

Lol i was active duty too that does not matter. If senior lvl officers that work with or around seals says its a career ending punishment than i believe them a little more than some military member that has NOTHING to do with this saying what he thinks.

Fact is they were punished and it was alot less than they should have been. Classified info is classified for a reason. All of them should have been reduced in rank and chaptered.
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-_- Really people? REALLY? It's a freaking video game. Big deal. XD So what if a few details are released. tongue.gif Does it really matter THAT much?
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What part was used in the game? The dumping the body at sea?
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-_- Really people? REALLY? It's a freaking video game. Big deal. XD So what if a few details are released. tongue.gif Does it really matter THAT much?

Yes. It really matters THAT much. While most may only think about what weapons or tactics were used to take someone's life, operational strategy and situation awareness is much more important than we may think.

And as for releasing classified information, let's address the issue that "classified" is VERY broad. However, as stated before, this is a direct violation of the UCMJ. Whether or not we think the information released is a big deal is irrelevant.

P.s. having classified clearance isn't all it's cracked up to be until you reach beyond TS.
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So you know more about it than the x seals and x commanders of the seals that all say it is a career lor? Please tell me what mos and rank you are that gives you more knowledge than these people.

I've also been around long enough to be skeptical of hear-say. It happens way too often. My wife will here another spouse claim her husband got in trouble for some total BS. Every time I look into it, it's not the whole truth.

You also need to understand that the military is a constantly changing force. What meant a lot in years past might not mean anything now. An LOR was a big deal before, but it simply doesn't mean as much anymore. The same goes for things like medals. Medals use to mean a lot, but now we give them out like candy; just like negative paperwork, such as Letters of Counseling and Reprimand.

But again, hear-say is worthless, so no, I'll never see things from your side.
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