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^ And how do we know it was a coincidence?
If Apple really had that kind of heart they would have made this donation right away. Instead, they opened up a link that allowed people to donate through Apple but Apple would not give any of their own money. Don't you think that the sight of a company making such a donation with their own money would have made it inevitable for a competitor to follow suit?

 

Apple, a company who almost never donates everything, actually gave a donation. Hooray, finally, yay! Of course it's something to celebrate about in terms of the fact that this money is going to help victims. However, what some of our thread-sayers have been saying is right. This is no more than paint - and a poor painting job at best, since they donated less, later, and with what seems to be none of their own will. There is still a giant pile of crap under that paint. It's like the Chongyeccheon Expressway in Seoul, Korea (before it was demolished to restore the river)


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Their last quarter Samsung got $5.86 billion profit, $3 millions is 0.0511% of their profits. Why should Samsung get praised and not Apple? Samsung gave around the same percentage of their profits.
By the way, it's 0.03125% not 0.0003125%

You are right...still 0.03125% is a bit low coming from a giant company like apple. Why should Samsung get praised and not Apple? Samsung is not an American company. Apple is an American company. Would apple donate money if this happened in Korea?
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apple donated nothing
OCN HATERS: greedy apple, why don't you donate your own money?
apple donated LESS than 3m
OCN HATERS: what a joke, that's nothing, they have lots of money, they should have donated more, samsung donated more than that.
apple donated MORE than 3m
OCN HATERS: this is just for publicity, they are just trying to compete with samsung, they don't really care about sandy victims.

As of today the Market cap for apple is 514.61 Billion. Their last quarter results was 8 Billion in profit. 2.5 million is 0.0003125% of their last quarter profit and a lot less than their net worth. So you want us to salute Apple for this contribution? So i say again...this is a joke....

But it wasn't a joke when Samsung did it?

If you're going to hate, at least hate equally.
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^ And how do we know it was a coincidence?

If Apple really had that kind of heart they would have made this donation right away. Instead, they opened up a link that allowed people to donate through Apple but Apple would not give any of their own money. Don't you think that the sight of a company making such a donation with their own money would have made it inevitable for a competitor to follow suit?

Apple, a company who almost never donates everything, actually gave a donation. Hooray, finally, yay! Of course it's something to celebrate about in terms of the fact that this money is going to help victims. However, what some of our thread-sayers have been saying is right. This is no more than paint - and a poor painting job at best, since they donated less, later, and with what seems to be none of their own will. There is still a giant pile of crap under that paint. It's like the Chongyeccheon Expressway in Seoul, Korea (before it was demolished to restore the river).

Apple has donated hundreds of millions in recent years.
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Lmao apple following what samsung does. But all serious apple is the richest company and only donated 2.5 million. Pfff companys nowadays.
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You are right...still 0.03125% is a bit low coming from a giant company like apple.

Samsung are almost as big. So what lordikon said, if you're going to hate, at least hate equally.

If you read my whole post you would see "Samsung got $5.86 billion profit" It's not that far off what Apple got in the same time.
   
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apple donated nothing
OCN HATERS: greedy apple, why don't you donate your own money?
apple donated LESS than 3m
OCN HATERS: what a joke, that's nothing, they have lots of money, they should have donated more, samsung donated more than that.
apple donated MORE than 3m
OCN HATERS: this is just for publicity, they are just trying to compete with samsung, they don't really care about sandy victims.

As of today the Market cap for apple is 514.61 Billion. Their last quarter results was 8 Billion in profit. 2.5 million is 0.0003125% of their last quarter profit and a lot less than their net worth. So you want us to salute Apple for this contribution? So i say again...this is a joke....
Sorry, I have got to disagree.

The whole of Samsung (not just electronics) is worth just about $900B.
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Their last quarter Samsung got $5.86 billion profit, $3 millions is 0.0511% of their profits. Why should Samsung get praised and not Apple? Samsung gave around the same percentage of their profits.
By the way, it's 0.03125% not 0.0003125%

.05% is 66% more than .03%. Hardly similar.

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I am glad they donated, but that is nothing but a PR move. 2.5 millions dollars for one of (if not the) most profitable companies in the world? To me that is absolute BS. When you win a 1.6 BILLION dollar law suit against apple for being a useless patent troll, you should probably give at least 1 freaking percent to disaster relief and not 16% of 1% of those funds. (. And oh by the way.... The company that lost that 1.6 billion dollars and ISN'T EVEN BASED IN AMERICA donated MORE.).

Heck, the company could have donated 2.5 million, and then Mr. Money Bags Tim Cook could have thrown in another 2.5 million (which is practically pocket change to the guy) and made it an even 5mil.

My problem is not the amount that they donated. It really isn't. Those people up north are struggling, and every penny is helpful. It is the fact that apple donated very little compared to others (when you scale the size of the company to the amount of the donation that is), they donated rather late (better late than never, but still for a multi billion dollar company, one would think they would be johny on the spot), the money is riddled with the stench of PR trolls, and that Apple really expects a PR boost from this at all. (by the way, I am not citing a source about the involvement of PR in this because I expect it to be self evident.)

I do not like apple. That much is true. But I really want to reinforce my point that my frustration at the situation does not stem from my bias about apple. It stems from the sheer real world reality of how little and late apple donated compared to the very company that they practically stole 1.6 billion dollars from. To me, it is just incredibly disappointing.
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FYI $2.5 million = roughly $35 per Apple employee. Anyone who has not donated at least that has no say in how much Apple has donated; they've essentially made a $35 donation for each of their ~73,000 employees.
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Here we go, Apple have donated $2.5 million. It's not a lot compared to how much they have, but it's at least $2,499,500 more than what these people complaining have donated.

Apples to oranges, really. Most people are not multi-billion dollar companies, and its rather unfair to put it that way. Yes, 2.5m is a large sum for most people, but if you want to make comparisons between giant corporations and ordinary people:

Apple Q3 2012 profit - 8.2bn
Apple donation - 2.5m

That is less than a thousandth of their monthly profit (roughly 2.7bn)

I'll even go with 3k as a Mr. X's monthly profit (which is untrue for many many people, myself included)

If Mr. X gives the same percentage Apple gave, that amounts to 2.74 dollars. A far cry from those 35 to 500 dollars stated above.

Mr. X would be called stingy. BTW, Samsung paid 3.45 dollars by my estimates (roughly 2.46bn monthly profit) , so not much better.
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Any corporation that announces their donation to the public did it for attention. Samsung did the same thing 2-3 days ago, not a single person in that thread complained that they were doing it to get attention, all they received is praise. It's fine Samsung received praise for their donation, what isn't ok is that people criticize Apple for doing exactly the same thing. Double standards are fail.

When applied to 2 things of equal standing, sure, but given Apple's rather recent misdoings in the industry, suing left and right, abusing the US patent system, telling customers they're taking pictures wrongly, etc, they are been seen in a rather poor light compared to the competition, who so far appears to be a lesser "evil", if evil at all (Apple does get more press, so other "evils" might have slipped by)

So while the act of giving was the same, people are more suspicious of Apple's donation than of Samsung's. "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth", but if you get two and one comes from a more suspicious individual than the other you'd be tempted not to.

Also, the fact that a foreign company beat Apple, a US company that should have a higher interest in helping, to the donation box by two days, and with a higher amount, no less, despite having less money. Still mere cents to either company, but given Apple's position they should be leading, not being led by a Korean company.
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