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Also i'm on a tight budget right now so that is something to consider also. Im also considering waiting for haswell, but im not to sure about that either.

For your needs, Z77 setup is more than enough thumb.gif If you want to spend more money then go X79 (no reason for you to go with X79 unless you just want it).
post #12 of 54
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Hello ! Looking for some help here !

Rig is gonna be used for 3d works ( 3ds max, Zbrush) and some gaming to,

I'm hesitating between the 3770k and the 3930k. As i understand, the 3770k offers a better upgrade path in the future because ivy bridge express will be on the same motherboard ?

Also i'm on a tight budget right now so that is something to consider also. Im also considering waiting for haswell, but im not to sure about that either.

Thrutefully i'm kind of lost ! tongue.gif

It will actually be the other way around.
The next gen of CPU's will be on socket 1150 and the next gen of Extreme's will stay the same for a couple of years at least.
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For your needs, Z77 setup is more than enough thumb.gif If you want to spend more money then go X79 (no reason for you to go with X79 unless you just want it).

im willing to pay more to have a better upgrade path tough. And is x79 that more expensive ?
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post #14 of 54
~$350 more fror a MoBo and CPU between 3930k with board vs. 3770k with board. Obviously that $350 number depends on which board you're going with, but that number is a ballpark.
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post #15 of 54
3770k if on a budget
3930k if you want the best.

For gaming there will not be a big difference between the two. But for 3d modeling the 3930k will be substantially faster due to 4 additional threads and 2 additional memory channels.
    
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post #16 of 54
GPU acceleration will help when you render in Maya/3DS Hardware or MentalRay.
Having a good GPU will help. Mental Ray is more biased to Nividia and CUDA. If you use Photoshop for texturing and Premier Pro for composting and creating demo reels CUDA acceleration with the adobe Mercury Engine will help alot.
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post #17 of 54
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Originally Posted by gablain View Post

Hello ! Looking for some help here !
Rig is gonna be used for 3d works ( 3ds max, Zbrush) and some gaming to,
I'm hesitating between the 3770k and the 3930k. As i understand, the 3770k offers a better upgrade path in the future because ivy bridge express will be on the same motherboard ?
Also i'm on a tight budget right now so that is something to consider also. Im also considering waiting for haswell, but im not to sure about that either.
Thrutefully i'm kind of lost ! tongue.gif

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.68 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.88 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Silverstone Element 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($70.53 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1240.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($564.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($344.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.68 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Silverstone Element 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($70.53 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1938.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Worth 700$ more.. i don't think so..

If all you did was Media 24/7 and nothing else.. maybe.... But for the Highend = middle end User No.
Edited by Hokies83 - 11/9/12 at 1:49pm
    
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post #18 of 54
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CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.68 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.88 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Silverstone Element 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($70.53 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1240.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-09 16:38 EST-0500)
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CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($564.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($344.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.68 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Silverstone Element 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($70.53 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1938.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Worth 700$ more.. i don't think so..
If all you did was Media 24/7 and nothing else.. maybe.... But for the Highend = middle end User No.

yeah ok but in there you put a case a lot more expensive, and a lot more ram...
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post #19 of 54
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yeah ok but in there you put a case a lot more expensive, and a lot more ram...

Socket 2011 uses quad channel ram...

And the case does not matter cause u do not need one wink.gif

If u wanna break it down the 3770k + MB + Ram is cheaper then a 3930k by it's self

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CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $494.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($344.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1114.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Or if you wanted to stick 1 stick in each channel...

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CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($344.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $999.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Edited by Hokies83 - 11/10/12 at 11:11pm
    
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post #20 of 54
If you are doing the model for work/Your business the 3930k x79 build would offer the best productivity vs the SB/IB z77 route, especially since you have the ability of having up to 64 GB of ram which will definitely help with anything that is ram heavy, but anything faster then 1866mhz is usually where diminishing return starts unless those programs scale better to the increase of bandwidth and decrease of latency. But if doing it for hobby or school the SB/IB setup would work better for you as a base unless you want the upgrade path which points to x79 still granted it has a higher start off cost.

GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $259.99 Shaved $100 off right here

The case I think is alot harder to recommend as its like picking a car you like, it just has to give you that feeling you wont regret it once you get in it. lol

For the video card anything Nvidia would be best as stated above due to the use of cuda, but would say also depends on screen size you are using a card with 4gb of vram couldnt hurt especially if you like modding. But a GTX 670 could keep you good here. Unless you wont be using any programs that take advantage of cuda then AMD 7870/7950 will fit a decent budget.

As for the SSD a Crucial M4 or a Samsung 830/840 would probably be better as Ive never seen anyone use a Sandisk before as the 3 mentioned are heavily used here.

And getting a power supply from the list here would probably best if overclocking and I like to have extra head room on wattage myself but 700-750w is highest I would get.

Also dont forget you can buy one set of 4 sticks to start with and get more later when you can afford them if the program you run consume alot of ram.

But with this you can shave off about $170 off what the person 1st recommend just off the cpu/mobo/ram
Edited by terraprime - 11/10/12 at 11:20pm
 
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