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you're just not used to it.

accel isn't necessarily a bad thing but i think most agree that the windows curve with epp on is too strong/inconsistent

Yep, off is best.

Though some quakers use a mild accel (some of them use a low sens with a mild bit of acceleration for when they want to do a quick 180° or 360° turn). But it's better to make your own curve through mouse drivers/games then.
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post #22 of 38
I have a relatively high/moderate sens in quake (9/360 base sensitivity) and use accel because it makes playing on maps with several tight angles in a row like Aerowalk a little easier

I'm more consistent with acceleration, because I'm more consistent at making slow twitches than fast ones. Fast ones I mess up and stop early or late, or get block with snapping to weird angles like 80 deg instead of 90.

Mouse acceleration is a very interesting topic thumb.gif Just don't use source engine acceleration, it's totally broken.
Edited by wareya - 9/26/15 at 10:38am
post #23 of 38
Here's the final solutions and answer to all your problems. The MarkC Windows Mouse Fix. Now updated for Windows 10.
http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html

There is hidden acceleration in Windows that cannot be turned off without (perfectly safe) registry hacks. What you are probably feeling is windows messing around with acceleration when told not to. This will fix that, and if you don't like it for any reason you can revert it without issues.

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post #24 of 38
>There is hidden acceleration in Windows that cannot be turned off

Nope.

Old games used acceleration settings to force the acceleration to be a straight line with no actual curve. But later versions of windows changed the API, so those functions turned it on even when users had it turn off.

If the game isn't old and broken, MarkC does literally nothing at all.
post #25 of 38
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>There is hidden acceleration in Windows that cannot be turned off

Nope.

Old games used acceleration settings to force the acceleration to be a straight line with no actual curve. But later versions of windows changed the API, so those functions turned it on even when users had it turn off.

If the game isn't old and broken, MarkC does literally nothing at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uHBFiAnpZs

I would take your word for it, except I had a LOT of red/green values until I used it on Windows 8.1 no matter what settings were applied.
post #26 of 38
red/green jitter is a result of the polling for dinput and cursor input being out of sync for the testing software.

With acceleration you have it one way or the other at a given speed.

Nothing to see here.
post #27 of 38
I've always had it turned on. I've always kept my sensitivity on the high side, and now that my desktop resolution is 4k, it has to be maxed because of all the extra desktop space. I can't stand having to move the mouse more than 5" or so to cover the screen and any setting below max requires far too much mouse movement for me to be comfortable and not run out of mouse pad space. Without pointer precision, the slow mouse movements are extremely jerky, too fast, and, obviously (as the name of the setting suggests), imprecise without pointer precision enabled.

Turn PP off, crank the sensitivity, and try, try, try your little heart out to move the mouse pointer one pixel at a time... I bet you can't. Turn PP on and try it. It's still difficult, but it's at least do-able. One pixel can be the difference between clicking what you want, and accidentally clicking what you don't want, so it stays on for me.
    
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post #28 of 38
well I mean setting windows sensitivity above 6/11 literally causes it to pixel skip

this is what high DPIs are for
post #29 of 38
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well I mean setting windows sensitivity above 6/11 literally causes it to pixel skip

this is what high DPIs are for
^^^^^^

There is no good reason to be doing that. You can easily get the exact speed you want with DPI settings if your mouse allows.
Edited by cookieboyeli - 9/26/15 at 12:20pm
post #30 of 38
Off in windows and drivers. If you must use accel, use in game accel settings. That way, if you change to a different mouse with different drivers you can still have same amount of accel.
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