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post #21 of 43
11/10/12 at 4:11pm
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Furmark is useless. It is only good for killing cards.
This. Furmark and MSI Kombuster should be avoided. The load and stress on the GPUs are unrealistic and unreasonable. A few runs of Heaven and 3DMark 11, some GPU-intensive games/ game benchmarks, and OCCT should be enough to determine stability.
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post #22 of 43
11/10/12 at 4:56pm
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Well I never overclocked my graphic cards before, and I don't want to destroy them so I may eventually but i'm not sure yet, and I won't be in the beginning anyway since my case it pretty crap, like it's airflow is really really bad. (this is a case made in like 2005 so it's pretty damn old).

But a HX850 costs me 150 euro while I MAY beable to get the 1000w for about the same price (maybe even less).

oh and I live in the netherlands, so any sites I can order at, are in Dutch and you can't read that I assume.

but I usually check this site www.tweakers.net for the lowest prices in my country (click on pricewatch at the top), and at www.mycom.nl but again, these are in Dutch so you'll need a translator.
Edited by Sleazybigfoot - 11/10/12 at 4:58pm
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11/10/12 at 5:02pm
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Well I never overclocked my graphic cards before, and I don't want to destroy them so I may eventually but i'm not sure yet, and I won't be in the beginning anyway since my case it pretty crap, like it's airflow is really really bad. (this is a case made in like 2005 so it's pretty damn old).
But a HX850 costs me 150 euro while I MAY beable to get the 1000w for about the same price (maybe even less).
oh and I live in the netherlands, so any sites I can order at, are in Dutch and you can't read that I assume.
but I usually check this site www.tweakers.net for the lowest prices in my country (click on pricewatch at the top), and at www.mycom.nl but again, these are in Dutch so you'll need a translator.

 

In that case, I recommend using this thread to help you spend less while still getting a quality-made modular power supply:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies

 

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post #24 of 43
11/10/12 at 5:12pm
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I would disagree with the 750w
While it would work fine on stock clocks, overclocking is a different story. My GTX470's can easily overload my Power supply if I stress the cards really hard with FurMark. Furmark will pull a good extra 100-200 watts from my system compared to something like 3dmark or metro2033. 850w would be the min I would go for two 480's.
AFAIK the 4xx's were unlocked and could draw more than intended using Furmark. The 5xx's and 6xx's on the other hand cannot. I believe this is where the 4xx's got the rep for being so power hungry. I wouldn't advise anyone to run Furmark on a 4xx card.
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post #25 of 43
11/10/12 at 5:17pm
OP, How much cheaper is the GTX480 than a GTX660? I just don't think I could see buying two GTX480's now. If you already had one, then it might be another story.
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11/10/12 at 5:35pm
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I can get 1 Club3D GeForce GTX 660 @ 980MHz 2GB GDDR5 for 199,99 euro, and the 480's I can get for ~250 euro (for 2 of them).
The Club3D is the cheapest one. (non ti) if I want a ti the cheapest one is Gigabyte GV-N66TWF2-2GD @ 941MHz 2GB GDDR5 for 269,90 euro.

So the GTX 660 non ti is cheaper then the 480's, but the ti version is about the same I would say (a little bit more).
Edited by Sleazybigfoot - 11/10/12 at 5:39pm
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11/10/12 at 5:49pm
A 660ti is about par with a 580, stronger in some cases. It's not much of an improvement for the cost.

Your mind seems to be pretty set on 480's, just get those and don't look back. But once again, there are downsides to using those cards which is of course higher power consumption, runs hotter, and you'll need a different PSU (which will cost you more of course). Plus, you can't add another card as an upgrade. Another upside to getting a 670 is that you can upgrade to SLI later on when the prices go down, and you can start saving for that as early as now.

OR

You can go AMD, never mind 3D (I run 3D vision surround and i dont even use it anymore. Last i probably used it was 6months ago, and not even for a long time. I'm kind of regretting my 3D vision monitor purchases.), with AMD it costs less and you get more power. I don't usually recommend AMD but their lineup has just improved so much compared to nvidias 6 series... for a lower pricepoint too, about $100 less compared to its Nvidia counterpart.
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11/10/12 at 5:52pm
You can pick up a used 480 for ~$130 very commonly. The price/perf is insane.
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11/10/12 at 5:55pm
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Well it just, I personally think the GTX 480's are better upgrade for me right now, but if I overlooked a card (like I completely forgot the AMD cards) I might look into it.

I don't know a lot about GPU's either, I know which ones are supposed to be good and better than others and that you need to check out the clock speeds and the amount of vram (from what I know) but other then that, I am clueless.
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11/10/12 at 6:34pm
Like I said... If you really want them, get them and don't look back. You wouldn't want to go through buyers remorse like myself (i wish i waited for nvidia 6series haha biggrin.gif).

While 2x GTX480 may beat a single 680, you have to keep in mind the things mentioned above plus the fact that SLI doesn't scale perfectly. There are games you may get almost double the performance of a single card, and some games which would be less than that. If you go single card you don't have that to worry about.

Also after a quick google search i found this and this (provides links to some benchmarks)

They show 480 sli vs 680 is very close in perfomance. Mind you, a 7970 with the new drivers either beats or is on par with a 680, and driver improvements have since improved performance as well since those benchmarks were done. So what's happening is that you're going to pay almost the same as a single new gen card for 2 cards which are only close in performance to a single 680 or 7970, yet have to pay an extra 100euro (like you said) to upgrade your PSU as well.

You could also get a 7950 for about $300 (250-260 euro maybe?) compared to 670s which go for $340-$380. It will still be a good bump in framerates (overclock it and itll be like you got a 7970), there will be no need to get another PSU, and then a year or so from now you could get a second one for less.
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