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I won't argue with that. but it is their fault they decided to cool the console poorly, and use the terrible clamp design which helps cause RROD's. The fan is kind of a trade off, yes it cools much better running at its 12V capacity, but it also sounds like a leaf blower. biggrin.gif

ps3 had a pretty good idea with wrapping the mb in a metal cage, but that doesnt even stop them from getting ylod/rlod
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If your Xbox works correctly for now, I don't personally see a purpose in trying to 'fix' it. You can take the heatsinks off and apply better paste, and clean out the dust inside, but other than that I wouldn't change anything if it's working great right now. However, if it is giving you the RRoD, then here is my story:


My console was RRoD when I bought it from my roommate last year. It worked when he got it from a friend, and I never tried til about 2 months after I bought it from him. It RRoD right off the bat, so I took to the internet to figure out my options. I quickly stumbled on THIS tutorial. I followed the instructions, and now it works perfectly. One thing I did differently, I didn't want to go through the hassle of drilling holes so I didn't, and put the screws (half-inch in length) directly through the motherboard and heatsinks.

Needed for this task:
#10-24 x 1/2-inch screws
#10 lock washers (make sure whatever washers you get are thin like these, since two pairs of screws in the motherboard will be very close and most washers are too wide to fit)
ArctiClean (with AS 5)
And lastly, T10 and T8-sized Torq Screwdrivers, included in THIS set I used.


I will say, as a heads-up to anyone who does this, when you're done putting the bolts and washers on, put your Xbox back together completely before testing it. It sounds like a pain in the butt, but when I did this method, for whatever reason, my Xbox refused to work until I got tired of it taking up space and put it all back together to get it out of the way. After it was back together, I tried to turn it on just for the heck of it, and it has worked flawlessly ever since. The screw heads are a hair too tall, though, and so the motherboard sits about 2mm too high, and as a result the DVD drive tray will not open unless my Xbox is laying down on its side - if it's standing up it won't open.
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just blow the dust out of it and use it till it dies. plenty of 1st gen xboxs work just fine. It's all in how you take care of your stuff/enviroment
 
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I won't argue with that. but it is their fault they decided to cool the console poorly, and use the terrible clamp design which helps cause RROD's. The fan is kind of a trade off, yes it cools much better running at its 12V capacity, but it also sounds like a leaf blower. biggrin.gif

It's not a matter of cooling, but of expansion and contraction of the solder balls from repeated heating and cooling (turning on and off). If you've ever taken a PS3 apart you'll see they have a huge fan and heatsink, especially the 60gb and 80gb versions, yet they still YLOD.

The permanent fix is to desolder the gpu and replace the solder balls with high quality leaded ones.

http://www.youtube.com/user/reply4reply

Watch that guy's videos to see how it's done, he's kind of a goof but there's some good information there.
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