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3570k. But the difference won't be that noticeable,
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The answer is when will games become multi-threaded, and even in multi-threaded applications the 3570K is no slouch. Also AMD pushed back Steamroller till 2014 supposedly, so it makes sense to go with a 3570K now. It doesn't make sense to go with a FX-8350 at this point or any AMD processor for gaming. AMD fans like to think that Piledriver/Bulldozer are great for multi-threading applications but the i5 is neck and neck with it and the i5 blows the FX-8350 away in single thread. I will say this again a FX-8350 doesn't make sense when a 3570K is the same price, if you have a Microcenter near you they have amazing deals on i5's.

I was just looking at their November catalog and they got 3570K's for $180 and a Z77 Gigabyte UD3H board for $95. The FX-8350 is $200 at Microcenter, I'll say this again it doesn't make sense going AMD in any type of situation at this point. Gaming, Video editing, Graphic design, Rendering, etc.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/29396-amd-desktop-roadmap-leaked
Edited by TKFlight - 11/10/12 at 4:57pm
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The only reason Im even thinking about the 8350 is because I already have a AM3+ board. If I was building from scratch I would be going with Intel for sure.
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The only reason Im even thinking about the 8350 is because I already have a AM3+ board. If I was building from scratch I would be going with Intel for sure.

Then it will probably be a decent increase. I have a FX-4100 right and I'm sick and tired of it so I'm heading to Microcenter Monday and picking up some parts so I can get this fake quad core off my hands.

AMD Logic
>Lets make processors with more cores but with less powerful cores
>Then we'll tell the world Intel is done
>Oh no it sucks lets release patches for Windows 7
>Oh no that didn't work we'll tell the world that Windows 8 will utilize the new architecture better
>Man now we gotta release Piledriver and hope it's actually good
>Crap it still doesn't keep up with Intel
>Oh well we'll just tell them that Steamroller will be a game changer

I've been a AMD fan for years but its getting crazy now, when a i5 is the same price as a FX-8350. But since you don't want to upgrade to Intel a FX-8350 will be a good choice if you want to keep your AM3+ motherboard.
Edited by TKFlight - 11/10/12 at 5:12pm
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Then it will probably be a decent increase. I have a FX-4100 right and I'm sick and tired of it so I'm heading to Microcenter Monday and picking up some parts so I can get this fake quad core off my hands.
AMD Logic
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>Then we'll tell the world Intel is done
>Oh no it sucks lets release patches for Windows 7
>Oh no that didn't work we'll tell the world that Windows 8 will utilize the new architecture better
>Man now we gotta release Piledriver and hope it's actually good
>Crap it still doesn't keep up with Intel
>Oh well we'll just tell them that Steamroller will be a game changer
I've been a AMD fan for years but its getting crazy now, when a i5 is the same price as a FX-8350. But since you don't want to upgrade to Intel a FX-8350 will be a good choice if you want to keep your AM3+ motherboard.

You do realize Intel has 10x the amount of employees as AMD right? Bulldozer failed - Piledriver actually caught up with Intel Core i5's on every front aside from gaming where it typically falls 20 FPS behind unfortunately. That may just be lack of utilization in games. If your rendering videos you'd want the FX-8350 over the Core i5 - if your gaming the i5 would be a better choice.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701
Edited by M3T4LM4N222 - 11/10/12 at 5:21pm
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You do realize Intel has 10x the amount of employees as AMD right? Bulldozer failed - Piledriver actually caught up with Intel Core i5's on every front aside from gaming where it typically falls 20 FPS behind unfortunately. That may just be lack of utilization in games. If your rendering videos you'd want the FX-8350 over the Core i5 - if your gaming the i5 would be a better choice.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701

20 FPS is a pretty decent margin, and the i5 blows it away in single thread and the FX-8350 just edges the i5 out in multi-thread. I guess using a FX-8350 would be better for rendering videos but you wouldn't be nothing spectacular over the i5. As I said before if OP doesn't want to get rid of his AM3+ motherboard the FX-8350 will be a significant increase over his current CPU.
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I was just looking at their November catalog and they got 3570K's for $180 and a Z77 Gigabyte UD3H board for $95. The FX-8350 is $200 at Microcenter, I'll say this again it doesn't make sense going AMD in any type of situation at this point. Gaming, Video editing, Graphic design, Rendering, etc.
Microcenter doesn't have normal prices so it shouldn't be used against AMD. Also, the part I highlighted with bold isn't true at all. The 8350 is better for compression, encoding, decoding, encryption as well as a few other things.
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Microcenter doesn't have normal prices so it shouldn't be used against AMD. Also, the part I highlighted with bold isn't true at all. The 8350 is better for compression, encoding, decoding, encryption as well as a few other things.

I absolutely agree. AMD's AM3+ processors are still a relevant option when compared to Intels offerings because they're competitive with the Core i5's while offering better encoding and compression abilities. You also cannot argue FM2 is not a HIGHLY viable option for HTPCs for the average consumer who wants performance + decent gaming capabilities. In fact I would argue that Trinity will absolutely change consumers options. It's now viable that someone could buy a $500 computer w/ an A10 and use the integrated graphics for 1920 x 1080/1600 x 900 gaming.
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I used to be an AMD user too, but switched to intel recently with the i5 3570k. I can tell you I am really happy with my choice! It's a good overclocker and performs great. Overall the i5 beats the 8350, espcially when you overclock the beast.
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i think what OP needs to do is rather than than bothering with the fx-8350 or 8320 he should save some money and get the fx-6300 instead.
now as far as i know 6300 is just as good in games as 8350 so why spend more on 8350 ?
so from the money he saves he should get another 6950 maybe used and crossfire them with his existing 6950 for much better multiplayer performance in BF3 wink.gif
    
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