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11/9/12 at 8:27pm
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Hey guys,

Back when I built this system SSDs were still pretty limited in terms of capacity and options. I have noticed that there are a lot more choices now and was looking for some advice.

My current system is in my signature but I am using the Corsair C300 SSD with 128gb capacity. I find this isn't enough to install all my games and media software like photoshop etc. I am a web designer and I do a lot of video work but also a lot of high end gaming.

I am not sure but I think the 256gb will be enough.

Any reccomendations? I was looking at the samsung 830 the corsair neutron gtx and the ocz vertex 4. I would like to gain performance and capacity smile.gif

Also if you have any other upgrade suggestions for my system I am all ears. I have some money to upgrade now.

Thanks,

Mike
Edited by Twisterman - 11/9/12 at 8:32pm
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post #2 of 39
11/9/12 at 8:40pm
Your system still looks solid, most here will recommend the Samsung SSD 830 or the new 840.
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post #3 of 39
11/9/12 at 8:45pm
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Hey guys,
Back when I built this system SSDs were still pretty limited in terms of capacity and options. I have noticed that there are a lot more choices now and was looking for some advice.
My current system is in my signature but I am using the Corsair C300 SSD with 128gb capacity. I find this isn't enough to install all my games and media software like photoshop etc. I am a web designer and I do a lot of video work but also a lot of high end gaming.
I am not sure but I think the 256gb will be enough.
Any reccomendations? I was looking at the samsung 830 the corsair neutron gtx and the ocz vertex 4. I would like to gain performance and capacity smile.gif
Also if you have any other upgrade suggestions for my system I am all ears. I have some money to upgrade now.
Thanks,
Mike

why wouldn't you try CRUCIAL M4....or Intel 330 series....they are really fast if you're goin for performance.... thumb.gif
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11/9/12 at 8:46pm
The Samsung 830 is the current performance/reliability leader - that's what most people are going to recommend. Plus you can find some really good deals on them now with the 840 out.
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11/9/12 at 8:49pm
http://www.overclock.net/t/1179518/seans-ssd-buyers-guide-information-thread

I would recommend the 840 Pro over the 840 though. If you want to go that route.
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11/9/12 at 9:25pm
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Wow great advice. So the Samsung 840 pro seems like its top notch I will take a look at some deals.

Thx for a the advice so far
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11/9/12 at 9:44pm
Right now the Samsung 840 Pro series is one of its own, in terms of speed and reliability. They are a bit expensive, but they get the work done no questions asked.

C300 128GB
355 MB/s Read
140 MB/s Write
4k Read: 50,000 IOPS
4k Write: 30,000 IOPS

840 Pro 256GB
540 MB/s Read
520 MB/s Write
4k Read: 100,000 IOPS
4k Write: 90,000 IOPS

As you can see there is quite a big jump not only in IOPS but also in data rate. Having such a high write speed will make your workloads much more parallel. Plus it will extend the life of your drive, since the drive isn't doing twice as many cycles to do the same workload. Copying large files like movies, or doing any task that is I/O dependent is where that 520 MB/s write is going to scream. In laymans terms, this drive is the devil and its built on the most reliable drive on the market (the 830). Just make sure you stay away from the original 840's they use less quality NAND.
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11/9/12 at 9:57pm
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Having such a high write speed will make your workloads much more parallel. Plus it will extend the life of your drive, since the drive isn't doing twice as many cycles to do the same workload. Copying large files like movies, or doing any task that is I/O dependent is where that 520 MB/s write is going to scream. In laymans terms, this drive is the devil and its built on the most reliable drive on the market (the 830). Just make sure you stay away from the original 840's they use less quality NAND.

Write speed has nothing to do with drive life - it's the same amount of data and writes no matter how fast it is. And your write speed (and hence copying) is going to be limited by the other drive anyway, so unless you are copying from one SSD to another, or to a different place on the same SSD, you are going to be limited by the other drive no matter how fast the SSD is.

The 840 Pro uses a new controller, new firmware, and new NAND, compared to the 830, so while Samsung has a good reputation for reliability and there is no reason to think the 840 Pro will be different, it is too early to say definitively that it has great reliability. The 830 does have a good track record and for everyday use you will never be able to tell a difference between it and the 840 Pro - plus you can find them for $75 less than an 840 Pro. If you are buying now, just find a deal on an 830.

Don't get me wrong, the 840 Pro looks like a great drive but given the price premium over the 830 right now, and the newness, I'd wait on jumping on one.
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11/10/12 at 1:08am
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Write speed has nothing to do with drive life - it's the same amount of data and writes no matter how fast it is. And your write speed (and hence copying) is going to be limited by the other drive anyway, so unless you are copying from one SSD to another, or to a different place on the same SSD, you are going to be limited by the other drive no matter how fast the SSD is.
The 840 Pro uses a new controller, new firmware, and new NAND, compared to the 830, so while Samsung has a good reputation for reliability and there is no reason to think the 840 Pro will be different, it is too early to say definitively that it has great reliability. The 830 does have a good track record and for everyday use you will never be able to tell a difference between it and the 840 Pro - plus you can find them for $75 less than an 840 Pro. If you are buying now, just find a deal on an 830.
Don't get me wrong, the 840 Pro looks like a great drive but given the price premium over the 830 right now, and the newness, I'd wait on jumping on one.
Actually it does, the more data that is transferred in one cycle the less cycles the drive has to execute to complete a task. If you did not know, NAND memory is very limited to write cycles. Also it would be stupid to run the 128 GB as the main drive, take it out and pop it into wifes computer or your laptop. That way you end up with two fast machines out of the deal, or keep it in your machine as a slave to store data on (very fast slave compared to mechanical).
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11/10/12 at 1:35am
I don't know what you are trying to say, or what you think write cycles means. Write speed has no impact on the number of times a particular NAND cell is written to - and that is the only thing that affects NAND lifespan (and even that's not an issue because NAND lifespan isn't a real problem anyway). Whether the drive is writing 200 MB/s or 500 MB/s, it is still writing the same amount of data, and it is still not writing to the same cell more than once in a given operation. This isn't time cycles we are talking about - it is write cycles. Write amplification makes a difference, but not write speed.

And who said anything about running the 128GB? He wants to replace the 128GB drive with a larger 256GB one - which was the whole point of this thread.
Edited by Forceman - 11/10/12 at 1:54am
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