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Yes, the i3 will hold you back in some games, but you can always turn up the graphics settings until they are back in line. If the CPU is only going to let you get 50 FPS, then you are only going to get 50 FPS no matter what video card you have in there - so it might as well be a pretty 50 FPS.

So, yes, you might not feel the difference, but you'll see it. So instead of running with no MSAA with a GTX 560 (for example), you could run with 4x MSAA instead and have a better overall experience. Ideally you'd want a better CPU to go with that card, but if you are going to overshoot it is better to overshoot the GPU because too much GPU means you can make it look better, but too much CPU doesn't help with anything.
Edited by Forceman - 11/10/12 at 11:29pm
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or you could sell your 460 and get the 660 non ti ?
the cpu will be pretty well off in most games. thumb.gif
    
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I would have bought a 2500k/3570k from somewhere and sent it to you as I know how it feels to have high prices! mad.gif
Oh well, how is the build going? I'd also suggest a 7870 over a 7850 even too, might even just save up that extra $50 NZ and get a 7950?

As for the i3, I'd look into getting an upgrade in a few months while you can to a locked i5 at least. As I said I'm quite happy to buy it and ship it to you provided you paypal me the money for it. But surely you can buy from a shop such as PCCG?
 
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Yes, the i3 will hold you back in some games, but you can always turn up the graphics settings until they are back in line. If the CPU is only going to let you get 50 FPS, then you are only going to get 50 FPS no matter what video card you have in there - so it might as well be a pretty 50 FPS.
So, yes, you might not feel the difference, but you'll see it. So instead of running with no MSAA with a GTX 560 (for example), you could run with 4x MSAA instead and have a better overall experience. Ideally you'd want a better CPU to go with that card, but if you are going to overshoot it is better to overshoot the GPU because too much GPU means you can make it look better, but too much CPU doesn't help with anything.

Fair enough. I am fully with you on that, to me that $50 would get spent on beer or food so it's probably better if I spend it on the GPU wink.gif
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or you could sell your 460 and get the 660 non ti ?
the cpu will be pretty well off in most games. thumb.gif

I was going to sell the GTX 460 anyway, no point leaving an unused GPU around. Is the 660 non Ti better than a 7850/70 though?
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I would have bought a 2500k/3570k from somewhere and sent it to you as I know how it feels to have high prices! mad.gif
Oh well, how is the build going? I'd also suggest a 7870 over a 7850 even too, might even just save up that extra $50 NZ and get a 7950?
As for the i3, I'd look into getting an upgrade in a few months while you can to a locked i5 at least. As I said I'm quite happy to buy it and ship it to you provided you paypal me the money for it. But surely you can buy from a shop such as PCCG?

The thing is I can't be bothered going through all the 3rd party shipping nonsense... I would rather have it here 1-2 days after I buy it! If the i3 really holds me back that much I will just flog it and get a locked i5. For now though, I'd rather get a nice SSD/HDD etc. going before I upgrade parts I already have.
    
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Is the 660 non Ti better than a 7850/70 though?

The 7870 outperforms the 660 non Ti. Gigabyte's has the best cooler I think.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_660_OC/27.html

The 7850 is not a bad performer as well. It's a tad slower than the GTX 660 though.

http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=756/ID=17473/SID=916816678/productdetails.html
Edited by someguy543 - 11/11/12 at 12:11am
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Fair enough. I am fully with you on that, to me that $50 would get spent on beer or food so it's probably better if I spend it on the GPU wink.gif
I was going to sell the GTX 460 anyway, no point leaving an unused GPU around. Is the 660 non Ti better than a 7850/70 though?
The thing is I can't be bothered going through all the 3rd party shipping nonsense... I would rather have it here 1-2 days after I buy it! If the i3 really holds me back that much I will just flog it and get a locked i5. For now though, I'd rather get a nice SSD/HDD etc. going before I upgrade parts I already have.

Yeah, I know what you mean... what board did you end up going with?
 
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The 7870 outperforms the 660 non Ti. Gigabyte's has the best cooler I think.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_660_OC/27.html
The 7850 is not a bad performer as well. It's a tad slower than the GTX 660 though.
http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=756/ID=17473/SID=916816678/productdetails.html

Thanks for the info - I'll probably go with the 7870.
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Yeah, I know what you mean... what board did you end up going with?

I'm torn between this and this. Although the difference is only $9... I think I'll just get the second one.
    
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Here's what I think you should get:

CPU: Intel Core i5 3470 Ivy Bridge Quad - Core Processor 3.2GHz - 275.00 NZD
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-M PRO - 169.00 NZD
Graphics: GIGABYTE Radeon HD 7850 OC - 339 NZD
Memory: G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333 - 75.00 NZD
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB - 109.99 NZD
PSU: Corsair CX500 v3 500W ATX Power Supply - 99.00 NZD
Case: COOLER MASTER CM Storm Scout 2 - 199.00 NZD
ODD: keep your odd

Total: 1065.99

If you already have a case, scratch that and use the money for an SSD (Crucial M4) and use a 7870 instead of a 7850. Still totals around 1100 NZD.
If you want the option for SLI open, you can upgrade the motherboard to an Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 for only 40 NZD more. Still totals near 1100 NZD.
Edited by someguy543 - 11/11/12 at 12:41am
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Here's what I think you should get:
CPU: Intel Core i5 3470 Ivy Bridge Quad - Core Processor 3.2GHz - 275.00 NZD
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-M PRO - 169.00 NZD
Graphics: GIGABYTE Radeon HD 7850 OC - 339 NZD
Memory: G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333 - 75.00 NZD
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB - 109.99 NZD
PSU: Corsair CX500 v3 500W ATX Power Supply - 99.00 NZD
Case: COOLER MASTER CM Storm Scout 2 - 199.00 NZD
ODD: keep your odd
Total: 1065.99
If you already have a case, scratch that and use the money for an SSD (Crucial M4) and use a 7870 instead of a 7850. Still totals around 1100 NZD.
If you want the option for SLI open, you can upgrade the motherboard to an Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 for only 40 NZD more. Still totals near 1100 NZD.

What's the point in getting a more expensive motherboard if I'm not going to be overclocking? Literally all upgrading the motherboard will do in this scenario will give me more SATA3 ports (which I will never need), more USB3.0 ports (which I will never use) and probably better multi-GPU performance (which I will no longer be using). The case is way too expensive - I would much rather get something around $100 and spend those savings on a better GPU or SSD. Nor do I need a new PSU.

I've already bought the i3-2120 anyway - it was a steal at $140 NZD, couldn't turn that down.
    
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Thanks for the info - I'll probably go with the 7870.
I'm torn between this and this. Although the difference is only $9... I think I'll just get the second one.

Definetly get the second one as it has 2x RAM slots.. I don't know of any other differences but the B75 chipset is much better then a H61 or even a H67.
 
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