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So, my aging rig finally died after Hurricane Sandy frown.gif Picked my parts, heading over to MC today to get em. 3570k, z77x-ud3h, 8gb ram, blah blah blah. The last part i've been debating is the card. I've always been partial to nvidia, but I also always buy the best bang/buck cards. This build it is hands down AMD. Now the decision comes down to these cards.

-MSI 2GB 7850 twin frozr III, $215 (rebate reduces to $205)
-HIS 7770, 140$ (rebate reduces to $109!)
-MSI 7770, $135 (rebate reduces to like $115)

Resolution: 1280x1024 (sometimes with a dual screen for browsing, not gaming), as well as 1366x768 when I feel like gaming on my TV.

At these resolutions, will a 7770 allow me to turn up all the eye candy? Thats really my main concern, playing games on ultra (or near ultra) or w/e at these resolutions. I'm hoping to get a monitor at some point this year, and it will most likely be a 1600x900 when I do get it ($ concerns). I also never mind turning down AA somewhat, as my horrible eyes cannot really see the jaggies all the time anyway; only certain games do they become noticeable to me. But, I LOVE mods, and I love installing them. I'd also like to try some ENB, as my last card was limited in that regard, but its not a deal breaker either way.

Though I will say this: my 88GT which is being retired did skyrim nearly maxed out with some texture mods and gave me a respectable 40-60FPS, even when I tried the lighter enbs. . So! I expect nothing less from a new much improved card.

Its a 100$ difference effectively: is the one card worth $100 more for me? Is the 7770 a steal with that rebate? Or is the 7850 really worth that extra 95$? I'd probably do the MSI 7770 if its still in stock, I've had good experiences with MSI radeons in the past, but if its gone I dont mind saving the extra 15$ with the HIS. I've just never bought one and dont know much about them aside from some reviews i've read.

Thanks everyone for input! I'll be putting up my build log later today if anyones interested.
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I would take 7770 its cheaper and takes less energy, but if you want to be more future proof take 7850. At 1366x768 any of these cards would max out anything i guess.

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Personally with your resolution i would make AMD APU build witd hybrid crossfire and fit it into mITX.
Edited by Tomus - 11/10/12 at 5:43am
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Thanks amigo. I am always trying to future proof my rigs. This last one lasted me FIVE YEARS playing all games maxed out. Up until this last year I had no slowdowns at all. The rest of my chosen parts are "future proof" IMO.

Although all of us in the PC building hobby should know that theres really no such thing as being totally "future proof". Always something newer and better. And every PC builder wants the newest, best, stuff in their rig.

Effectively I was debating whether to future proof now, before I buy the monitor. Or at a future date, upgrade the GPU when I need it. You told me exactly the information I needed to hear: if I don't need the 7850 now, and can max all out at my current resolutions, then I'm good to go. No sense wasting $.

If that 7770 can max out skyrim, at my resolutions, WITH texture mods (and occasional ENB), i'm good to go friends.

Unless anyone else makes claims to the contrary, I think you've helped me decide. +1 Rep to ya!
    
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Get the asus 7770 its got 2gb dram compared to 1 and it's 150. 2 of these cards in crossfire beats a 7950. I imagine the 1gb version crossfired is good as well and you can get two of those for 200 flat. If you can find a 7950 for under 300 I'd do that; then you can crossfire it later
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first of all, sorry you lost your comp and who knows what else with that hurricane thumb.gif

on topic:

im running 1 little xfx 7770 on a LG 1080P monitor (dont know the model) for financial reasons.. it was this card or nothing mad.gif anyway, this card still have power left to drive THIS monitor resolution with practically every game i have played, including BF3, sleeping dogs, etc etc with a few settings turned down a little bit with absolutely no problems, gaming in general IS smooth

for the resolution you mentioned the 7770 can tear anything in pieces AND the fact that youre not that concerned about games makes the choice easier; you can get "another" upgrade with the 100 bucks you save over the 7850 like an SSD or anything you may like.. OH 1 more thing a 7770 for 100 bucks IT IS a steal

OR get the 7850 and have enough horsepower for years to come thumb.gif
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Yup rest of the rig is pretty decent, so in future if you move to higher resolution you just need to get new gpu to stay in game. 7770 should be good for now.
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Thanks guys. I'm actually getting an OCZ (Vert or agilitiy i cannot remember) 4, 128gb. I put a extreme4 in on my MC in store pickup order, but i'm going to change it to the gigabyte z77x-uD3H when I get there. I prefer gig and second guessed myself over which, so I'm going back with my gut instinct. The build with the card is going to end up costing me around 650$, perhaps even less with that rebate. For a 3570k, SSD, etc, I'd say thats a very nice gaming system at a budget price. I have always been about bang/buck performance, and also try to "future proof" as much as possible.

Though once again: we all know future proofing is a figment of our imaginations biggrin.gif

Also, its not that i'm not "concerned": I LOVE turning settings up, all the way, especially noticeable ones (ie skyrim texture mod), its just that AA is less noticeable to me, so I don't really care about it too deeply. Further, most of my games are "old", so I know they will run perfectly. I usually do not buy games on their release date. I prefer waiting for it to evolve, have bugs dealt with, AND drop in price tongue.gif So i'm always behind a bit on games, meaning my gpu can be behind a little bit as well. The rest of my games are Source games, and as we all know it doesn't take much to max out CS:GO or L4D2. Once again, I LOVE shadows, I LOVE high textures, I love all that neat stuff. But AA? Meh. When your eye sights as bad as mine, sitting back an extra foot more than compensates for AA.

My last rig lasted me 5 years, playing every game I threw at it with maxed out settings. I'm basically trying to pick all parts I know will not need to be upgraded for a longgggggg time, and aside from this graphics card, the rest all fall under that category. So if I need to upgrade the gpu in a year or two when I get a new monitor, so be it. I'm ok with that, considering everything. That 100$ could go towards another component if needed, or even a game to play!

Shoot, theres a nice acer 1600x900 monitor on sale at MC for 99$, maybe I"ll use that $ to pick it up!

Thanks for your help everyone, and thank you for your condolences regarding the Hurricane. I was lucky: no flooding. Just so happened the rig was on its way out, and I guess something just aint working anymore. I think the GPU died again, but that will be the second time this year. I also think the MB and HDD are done as well, so it was just finally time to do what I've been putting off for years.
    
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I say go used and get this from the marketplace.
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@Junkboy: Thats definitely a tempting buy. But for my first rig in half a decade, I'd rather go with a new GPU that I can literally drive down the road and return. I HATE when a part is DOA, I HATE having to wait for it to ship back/fourth. I HATE that I cannot drive to Neweggs spot in NJ when there are issues. So that convenience alone makes it worth the extra $ to me, as I want to get this building started already! Meaning if i DID go with the 7850, i'd rather pay 200$ for a new one at a store that I can drive to, and return, in person and get a new one that second.

Compare this to the marketplace, where if the parts bad you have to mail it back to the individual and do things that way. The issue isn't trust either, I've bought one or two things off the OCN marketplace. The issues: the guarantees, convenience, and time factor. No waiting! Normally I dont mind saving $ to inconvenience myself, but PC parts? Sucks having to wait on your build for that ONE PART that was DOA...

I definitely am ALWAYS checking the marketplace for deals though. When I get that new monitor that will, as always, be the first place I look.

But the 7770 @ 140$, and after rebate 110$?...

@Gatornation: another tempting buy. If they have a 2GB 7770 at MC i'll pick it up instead. But they have the HIS for 109, and the MSI for fairly cheap, so we'll see how it pans out. Once again, no waiting when I buy this way. Even if MC gpus are usually 10$ more than usual.
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Thats definitely a tempting buy. But for my first rig in half a decade, I'd rather go with a new GPU that I can literally drive down the road and return. That convenience alone makes it worth it to me, as I want to get this building started already!
I definitely am ALWAYS checking the marketplace for deals though. When I get that new monitor that will, as always, be the first place I look.
But the 7770 @ 140$, and after rebate 110$?...

It's a great price for it I can't dispute that and if you really need something now then it's a great choice.

But I would at least ask to maybe wait a week or two for sales leading up to Black Friday/Cyber Monday and hopefully get something you can drive to and pick up. I know you want something now but the sales that will be coming will make the wait more than worth it.
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