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11/10/12 at 6:52am

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OK, I'm really fed up of this motherboard now.

I set the voltage mode to manual and 1.240V, with level 4 LLC. This resulted in 1.224 to 1.236V under load, and it was stable at 4.2GHz for 12 hours of Prime95 Blend.

Since I don't want my CPU running at full voltage when it's sitting idle, I switched back to offset voltage mode (which for some reason in the Gigabyte BIOS is named "normal"), added a notch from what I previously had for 4GHz and ran Prime95 again. The load voltage fluctuates a lot, but never goes below 1.224 (I saw between 1.224 and 1.260).

So why oh why does my PC crash after running Prime for a minute or two? Sometimes I get a 124 BSoD and sometimes I don't get any BSoD - it just restarts as though I had pushed the reset button on my case.

Any ideas at all? Close to RMAing this motherboard as I've had problems with it even when not overclocking.

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11/10/12 at 9:50am

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When I switched to offset mode on my sig rig, I had a hell of a time getting everything worked out. In the end, the solution was dropping LLC to a lower setting and increasing the offset. I was 8 hour LinX and P95 stable, but was crashing while playing Source games.

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11/10/12 at 11:49am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hermitmaster

There's no LLC on Gigabyte boards when using offset mode

Thanks anyway.

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11/10/12 at 11:57am

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There is LLC with offset on their Z77 boards.

Are you using the latest BIOS? There is UEFI update available for your board. Also beta BIOSes over here.

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11/10/12 at 12:12pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellis

There's no LLC on Gigabyte boards when using offset mode

Thanks anyway.

There is on mine. Try the BIOS update as DeXel suggested.

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11/10/12 at 12:17pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hermitmaster

There is on mine. Try the BIOS update as DeXel suggested.

You have Z77 board, Ellis doesn't

Also with offset sometimes higher voltage should be applied.

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11/10/12 at 12:32pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeXel

There is LLC with offset on their Z77 boards.
Are you using the latest BIOS? There is UEFI update available for your board. Also beta BIOSes over here.

Whoops, I should have said there isn't on their Z68 boards.

The UEFI update is totally broken - turbo mode doesn't work, offset voltage is even worse than it is on the BIOS, it overclocks your CPU by default, you can't enter the UEFI with some USB devices plugged in, etc.

The update on the beta BIOSes page you linked is in fact the latest UEFI update which I have tried - I'm on the F7 BIOS which is the latest stable one, I'm not sure if the beta versions F7a, F7b etc. are more recent than F7 - I believe they are older.

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You have Z77 board, Ellis doesn't
Also with offset sometimes higher voltage should be applied.

I've tried bumping it up by about 3 notches which results in something like 1.26+, surely I can't need that much of a difference?

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Optical Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Crucial m4 64 GB \| 0309 firmware	Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB	Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB	Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2 TB
Optical Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Samsung 20x DVD-RW	Cooler Master Hyper 212+	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit	Dell U2312HM
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Filco Majestouch 2 \| MX Browns \| Full-Sized	XFX 650 W XXX Edition	Cooler Master 690 II Lite	Logitech G500
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11/10/12 at 12:40pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellis

I've tried bumping it up by about 3 notches which results in something like 1.26+, surely I can't need that much of a difference?

But did it help?

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ST3300822AS	Western Digital RED 3 TB	Noctua NH-D14	Lamptron FC Touch
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Windows 8 Professional	LG W2252TQ	CM Storm Quickfire Rapid Red	Cooler Master Silent Pro M850W
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Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8GB 1600Mhz CL9	Samsung 830	Western Digital WD1001FALS	Samsung HD753LJ
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling	Cooling
ST3300822AS	Western Digital RED 3 TB	Noctua NH-D14	Lamptron FC Touch
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 8 Professional	LG W2252TQ	CM Storm Quickfire Rapid Red	Cooler Master Silent Pro M850W
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11/10/12 at 12:41pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeXel

But did it help?

Not in the slightest, will try excess voltage again now.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Crucial m4 64 GB \| 0309 firmware	Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB	Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB	Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2 TB
Optical Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Samsung 20x DVD-RW	Cooler Master Hyper 212+	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit	Dell U2312HM
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Filco Majestouch 2 \| MX Browns \| Full-Sized	XFX 650 W XXX Edition	Cooler Master 690 II Lite	Logitech G500
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Crucial m4 64 GB \| 0309 firmware	Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB	Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB	Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2 TB
Optical Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Samsung 20x DVD-RW	Cooler Master Hyper 212+	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit	Dell U2312HM
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Filco Majestouch 2 \| MX Browns \| Full-Sized	XFX 650 W XXX Edition	Cooler Master 690 II Lite	Logitech G500
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11/10/12 at 12:43pm

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Offset can be tricky to get working. I am running +0.90 with LLC on Turbo for 4.5 Ghz and it's perfectly stable (about the same voltage as fixed voltage) and Gigabyte Z68 boards aren't known for their stability either.

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Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8GB 1600Mhz CL9	Samsung 830	Western Digital WD1001FALS	Samsung HD753LJ
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling	Cooling
ST3300822AS	Western Digital RED 3 TB	Noctua NH-D14	Lamptron FC Touch
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Windows 8 Professional	LG W2252TQ	CM Storm Quickfire Rapid Red	Cooler Master Silent Pro M850W
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Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8GB 1600Mhz CL9	Samsung 830	Western Digital WD1001FALS	Samsung HD753LJ
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling	Cooling
ST3300822AS	Western Digital RED 3 TB	Noctua NH-D14	Lamptron FC Touch
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 8 Professional	LG W2252TQ	CM Storm Quickfire Rapid Red	Cooler Master Silent Pro M850W
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