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To me personally, I would hope ESO to do well, just like Wildstar and EQ next. And hopefully the developers learn from experience and make a better game in the future. I love MMOs, especially 1st time leveling in them, followed by learning my class in dungeons and going into raids. I've finsihed all HM raids in WoW, Swtor, and now FF14:ARR when I played them.
Imo, right now It is important, actually extremely crucial to the MMO genre that these games do not fall like Swtor. Because if they do, it is very possible we may not see/very sparingly be presented with new MMO titles in the future. redface.gif
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Regarding to first: Skyrim is not an MMO but people want to comapre Skyrim to ESO in every aspect. So if they choose to do so, I think in this department I think ESO gets a bonus.

I'm not pre-ordering, I prefer to wait for the MMO and see how it turns out. I would prefer $60 up front or $15 subscription, but not both. I am interested to see who is wrong about the future of ESO. I am one to admit I don't know but many people seem very sure of themselves.
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To me personally, I would hope ESO to do well, just like Wildstar and EQ next. And hopefully the developers learn from experience and make a better game in the future. I love MMOs, especially 1st time leveling in them, followed by learning my class in dungeons and going into raids. I've finsihed all HM raids in WoW, Swtor, and now FF14:ARR when I played them.
Imo, right now It is important, actually extremely crucial to the MMO genre that these games do not fall like Swtor. Because if they do, it is very possible we may not see/very sparingly be presented with new MMO titles in the future. redface.gif

I hope all games do well, lol.

I've played a lot of MMOs in the past but they were not really MMOs like WOW or Starcraft or whatnot. The game mechanics were much different than the MMOs most people play. So although I've played a lot of MMOs before I might not be as good of a judge on the gameplay mechanics. 

 

But yea. I very rarely preorder games. Seems risky to me. I pay people for good work, not pay and hope it's good work. It's not like I get a refund.

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At launch you do not need end game. It will take a while before you can get to max level and have the gear needed. That is no reason for a game to fail.

That's incorrect, you very much do need end-game at launch, unless they add a day 1 patch that has it, not having end-game content on launch means a games failure. Maybe not complete failure, like Tabula Rasa, but it's going to tank. Unless they have pulled a 180 from the last 8 years of MMOs and decided to go back to the 6-12 months of leveling before you reach end-game, there will still be people rushing through and reaching it within the first month, week even. And what do you think will happen when they realize they have nothing to do? They leave, and complain, and then a good portion of the people working towards end-game will stop.

They can add it later sure, but like I said, you don't get a chance at a 2nd launch. If you're a failure at launch, it doesn't matter how amazing your game is 3 months or a year from then, most people won't try it again.
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That's incorrect, you very much do need end-game at launch, unless they add a day 1 patch that has it, not having end-game content on launch means a games failure. Maybe not complete failure, like Tabula Rasa, but it's going to tank. Unless they have pulled a 180 from the last 8 years of MMOs and decided to go back to the 6-12 months of leveling before you reach end-game, there will still be people rushing through and reaching it within the first month, week even. And what do you think will happen when they realize they have nothing to do? They leave, and complain, and then a good portion of the people working towards end-game will stop.

They can add it later sure, but like I said, you don't get a chance at a 2nd launch. If you're a failure at launch, it doesn't matter how amazing your game is 3 months or a year from then, most people won't try it again.
Adding end-game at launch in not a failure. Where do you get that idea from? Tabula Rasa was a bad game through out.
There is lots to do in ESO, and if you think lv50 is max. that is wrong. it will take a while to get people to max level and get prepared to raiding. People who never liked to pvp, will most likely do so in ESO.

It is hard to explain to people how really didnt do much in the game.
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Adding end-game at launch in not a failure. Where do you get that idea from? Tabula Rasa was a bad game through out.
There is lots to do in ESO, and if you think lv50 is max. that is wrong. it will take a while to get people to max level and get prepared to raiding. People who never liked to pvp, will most likely do so in ESO.

If you have nothing to post about ESO to help people that are playing in this thread. Please refrain from posting stuff like this.

TR was actually a good game, until you reached max lvl. The reason it failed is there was nothing for anyone to do at end-game.
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Is there going to be another BETA before launch? Because that last utter bug fest of a weekend was shocking and I'm not paying 60 quid to continue testing teaching.gif
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Is there going to be another BETA before launch? Because that last utter bug fest of a weekend was shocking and I'm not paying 60 quid to continue testing teaching.gif
No more beta as the game releases soon. It was a stress test that weekend. The current on going testers did not experience bugs as they are ahead in patching.

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No more beta as the game releases soon. It was a stress test that weekend. The current on going testers did not experience bugs as they are ahead in patching.

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So we got a stress test bug fest? What's the point of that? Been typing /bug and /reloadui for a whole weekend for them to have already fixed the issues in the closed BETA? Riiiiiight rolleyes.gif
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So we got a stress test bug fest? What's the point of that? Been typing /bug and /reloadui for a whole weekend for them to have already fixed the issues in the closed BETA? Riiiiiight rolleyes.gif
Not everyone had the same issues as you. How the game affects your system, will affect someone else differently. I had a to do two reloadui and one bug report for the weekend beta test. On the PTS it has been much smoother over the week.

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Not everyone had the same issues as you. How the game affects your system, will affect someone else differently. I had a to do two reloadui and one bug report for the weekend beta test. On the PTS it has been much smoother over the week.

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Sorry but in game chat said different. Every other shout was "is this quest borked?" only to be confirmed by MANY sources as "aye, and so is this one and that one too" redface.gif
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