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[Build log] Node 304 + Silver Arrow

post #1 of 31
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So I'm living up 2 flights of stairs this year for uni and having a PC weighing like 10kg and almost as big as me was not going to work out. mITX to the rescue I guess.

And then I thought it would be funny to put the baddest cooler in it for OCs and giggles.

I would like to thank the guy who lives across the hall from me for aiding in the building of this and not being put off by my endless cussing. I made dinner for him.

This is my second build ever (my first was like 5 years ago too) so please be gentle :d

THE PARTS



Node 304
3570k
Silver Arrow
P8H77-I which was promptly replaced by a P8Z77-I once I realised it ruined literally everything
4GB of some crappy crucial ram
EVGA GTX 650 (chose a stump card so I use whatever psu I want)
be quiet! straight power 480w
Corsair force F60 SSD and a bunch of hard drives from my old pc

THE BUILD

Before we start: god damn building in a case this small blows and why are all the screws so tight holy crap you can't call those thumbscrews

Ok it wasn't so bad. Except for the motherboard standoffs which I needed to spanner in after leaving them 2mm out of the board then realising none of the ports on the back lined up because of it. srsly why fractal

The heatsink mounting mechanism was absolutely disgusting as to be expected from any cooler ever. I did like how there were long nut things you could attach the backplate with before putting the heatsink though because that made it a lot less nightmarish than it could have been.

The thing on the side of the motherboard didn't get in the way of the heatsink but it did limit my fan choice to only having the 120mm one (the 140mm won't go in normally because it covers the PCI slot and it won't go in sideways because of the thing) . It also meant I had to use the clips for the large fan on that side and they proper bend (2nd image) which is a bit worrying.

We needed 2 people to get the last screw in too because of it. Someone holding the screwdriver upright and someone else using their fingertips to turn the screw...




Thanks to miracles from asus you can use a cooler almost as wide as the mobo, then have a graphics card too...



Having a second 120mm fan on the heatsink is a no go too since they hit the DIMMs (maybe not on samsung green ram) and you'd have to put your drives elsewhere (using backwards SSDs in the cages might work)

And here it is in the case:


PUT THE MOTHERBOARD POWER CONNECTORS IN AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THEY'RE LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT IN AFTER THE PSU GOES IN

Also put the front panel stuff in before the GPU
Also put the CPU fan connector in the CPU fan slot and not the chassis one or the motherboard cries every time you turn it on (they are right next to each other...) and good luck changing it after the mobo goes in

edit: connect the CPU fan right or it won't spin up under load. Changing it while everything is in is doable but I have little girly hands so YMMV

Same thing from the other side:


GPU goes in easily enough except for the world's tightest thumbscrew to remove the backplates GOOD GOD FRACTAL. You can also fit all the drive cages in with the 650 because it's so small so I plan on mounting my 3rd drive here as it doesn't block the CPU fan so much.

The bottom PSU screw was kind of awful because I only had a fat screwdriver with the right head so I had to hold it at an angle then the screw kept going in sideways and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

I a little bit forgot to keep taking pictures at this point so let's skip to having basically everything in:


And here it is booting:


After selecting the silent (600rpm) profile for the CPU fan in the bios, putting the case fans on low and putting my finger on the GPU fan it's virtually silent. Then when I let the GPU fan spin up it's the loudest PC I've owned, but I'm hoping this will be remedied by installing drivers so they keep the fan speed on a tight leash.

I don't have any proper measurements for temps yet because I put my old HDD in and windows immediately BSODed on me and I couldn't be bothered to reinstall last night but after like 10mins in the bios the CPU was at <30'C. Real measurements will be coming later this weekend. Also overclocking results.

THINGS TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS

The resulting build is actually not light at all but the size means it's not unwieldy so that shouldn't really matter. Will practice carrying it up and down stairs once it's done and report back.
You can actually have a silver arrow and mITX provided that you buy the most expensive motherboard ever because it's the only one with the CPU slot far enough from the PCI slot
GTX 650 is the perfect size for this case
Buy thin/long screwdrivers for the fiddly screws and ones with beefy handles for the stupid tight screws if you're going to do this.
Edited by mikejsavage - 11/19/12 at 11:11am
post #2 of 31
Glad you enjoyed yourself...

I expect you had to sacrifice a drop or two of blood along the way too !

Nice write-up !

dunx
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 - 960 Asus P6T7 WS Revolution with MIPS water blocks. XFX HD 7950 + waterblock Powercolour R9 280X 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial Ballistics Tracer 6 x 4Gb 2Tb WD caviar green Crucial M4 64 Gb SSD  Sony NEC DVD  
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Apogee Drive + Allphacool 180mm rad W7 Dell 29" 21:9 IPS monitor Coolermaster 1250W PSU 
CaseAudio
Antec P280 Scythe Kama Bay Speaker 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i7-4770K Asus Impact VI HyperX beast 2400MHz 2x 8Gb WD 1Tb caviar black x3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel X-25 SSD 80 Gb Corsair H80 W7 Panasonic 32" HDTV 
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i7 870  Asus Maximus III Formula GTX 480  HD 5870 
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post #3 of 31
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I feel like if I didn't have bulletproof guitar fingers that it would be the case.

Some initial temps:
GPU idles at 22'C with the fan speed permanently at 21% which for whatever reason is still loud as hell and I can't make it go any lower and I hate it
CPU idles at 24-34'C which makes me think I mounted the heatsink badly but I'm more than happy to just deal with it.

If anyone can come up with a better solution to the GPU fan thing than taping it so it can't spin I'd love to hear it.

edit: temps while playing hon

GPU 30'C
CPU 40'C on 2 cores then 30'C on the others

edit2:

GPU 35'C, CPU same
Edited by mikejsavage - 11/10/12 at 7:46pm
post #4 of 31
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Originally Posted by mikejsavage View Post

GTX 650 is the perfect size for this case.

this entertains me.
post #5 of 31
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Ok so after starting linpack the CPU immediately jumps to 80'C then hovers there. Did I put the heatsink on wrong or am I just out of luck for OCing?
post #6 of 31
Sounds like there's something wrong. I just checked my 3770k at 4.5Ghz with a Silver Arrow in Linpack (on my big PC) and it is in the mid 60s. Having only one fan shouldn't make that much difference, particularly with the Fractal fan immediately behind it. Perhaps you didn't tighten the locking nut enough. It might be worth reinstalling the heatsink.

Still, I'm impressed that you've got the Silver Arrow on it at all. I couldn't get a Noctua C12P SE14 to work in mine, and am just about to try a Prolimatech Megahalems. I also need to fit in my GTX 690.
post #7 of 31
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I guess it's worth mentioning that's with the fan at like 600rpm and case fans on medium... overreaction :d
post #8 of 31
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Sorry for double post...

But I put the CPU fan connector in the CPU slot and not the chassis one and it now actually spins up under load. I didn't notice this not happen earlier because I can't monitor fan speeds from linux and even spun up it's basically inaudible over the GPU which I am RMAing for being absolutely ridiculous.

So the CPU now hits 60'C when linpacking, although 1 core is consistently hotter (6-7'C) than the others. I did notice also that one of the heatpipes is actually in contact with a cap on the big sticky up thing on the mobo so it's slanted by a degree or two, which I guess is what's causing that.

Anyway, OC time :d
post #9 of 31
Hi guys,

I'm trying to replace my NH-D14 on node 304, because I want to fit one of those 26.5 cm Thermalright fan instead of 25 cm SS R2 on main case exhaust. With NH-D14 I can't do this, as there is not enough clearance between radiator and R2. What about Silver Arrow? From the picture it seems like there is not enough clearance as well frown.gif Maybe I should just get non-U shaped radiator like HR-02 Macho, am I gonna get enough clearance to replace back fan? What do you think?
post #10 of 31
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I don't know what a lot of those words mean but if you want any photos or measurements taken I can provide tongue.gif

edit: OC results!

With auto voltages I can get 4.2GHz which hits ~85'C after 30mins of linpack (95'C on one of the cores though). Hopefully tuning the voltage will let me go further because this is kind of disappointing, even with the case fans on low...


Edited by mikejsavage - 11/19/12 at 12:31pm
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