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post #21 of 31
Thanks for feedback!
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Originally Posted by mikejsavage View Post

1: You def won't fit huge ram like that. A dimm with an exposed pcb MIGHT go in with the chips touching the heatsink blades.
Aparently there is not much of 8GB modules capable of 1866MHz and higher without huge heatsink. frown.gif

Don't worry about quality of photos. Even bad and blurry picture from cameraphone could be very self explanatory smile.gif
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Originally Posted by mikejsavage 
3: The case itself is inaudible. The silver arrow makes a kind of deep hum but it's not so bad.
I'm just thinking whether Silver Arrow is overkill for such system or not. Looking at big radiators/coolers as they should work with lower revs.
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The GTX 650 is totally worthless and sounds like a hair drier on min fan speed to the point that I returned it as faulty then the replacement was just as obnoxious and now if I want a replacement I have to ship it to munich or some crap so ugh...
I'm just going to start with build-in video. Don't play games, so should be OK smile.gif (I have it in my laptop and it's quite OK. Even compared to nVidia Quadro k2000m smile.gif )
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Originally Posted by mikejsavage 
4: I feel like the more expensive motherboard/heatsink wasn't worth it for such a small overclock (I was hoping for 4.4/4.5), the graphics card being so loud is annoying and I don't really notice the SSD since I spend all my time in terminals but other than that I'm happy with it.
With mb the problem is socket location. Was looking at cheaper Gigabyte and Asrock, but they fill fit only much smaller heatsink -> higher revs -> more noise. And the only other MB with proper CPU socket position (EVGA) costs even more, significantly more (at least in the UK).
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Originally Posted by brian1115 View Post

I personally would have gone with a liquid cooling solution for more space inside the case. As well as a Bitfenix Prodigy because it has handles and you can carry it up/down your stairs when needed smile.gif
Initially I was going to buy Prodigy, but it is BIG! And I don't need 5.25 bay. Just want a small and quite computer with fast processor, lots of memory and storage for photos (raw conversion) and rare video editing.
But for ultimate gaming station Prodigy would be a nice choice indeed.

From the other side, for liquid cooling you still need one or two fans, huge radiator and pump. So you are not reducing the number of fans (speaking about this type of systems, with no or moderate overclock) and bring another source of noise - pump. And if you think about physics, heat-pipe based cooler (like SilverArrow) will be extremely similar to liquid cooling, in a way how it works - it also has liquid inside tubes that takes the heat from its source and brings it to radiator where it dissipates by itself or flow of air.
post #22 of 31
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Originally Posted by DimaV83 View Post

From the other side, for liquid cooling you still need one or two fans, huge radiator and pump. So you are not reducing the number of fans (speaking about this type of systems, with no or moderate overclock) and bring another source of noise - pump. And if you think about physics, heat-pipe based cooler (like SilverArrow) will be extremely similar to liquid cooling, in a way how it works - it also has liquid inside tubes that takes the heat from its source and brings it to radiator where it dissipates by itself or flow of air.

Not completely correct on the liquid cooling, you could go a closed loop like the H60 and get excellent cooling with more space to work in and less fans than you have in the system right now. No CPU cooler fan needed just replaced the exhaust with the radiator and it's fan.
post #23 of 31
Hey Mike,
I'm starting a build for a Z87 ITX system and I happened to decide on the same case. Your build is quite inspiring as I am a big fan of Thermalright coolers.

With SA SB-E i noticed you had two problems. First is quite manageable I think, which is the fan clips on the VRM board side (please still let me know how badly the middle fan mounts with the larger clips).

The second one though is more concerning, when you said "I did notice also that one of the heatpipes is actually in contact with a cap on the big sticky up thing on the mobo so it's slanted by a degree or two, which I guess is what's causing that." Now, how bad is the contact? I mean, is it just touching, or is it seriously resting on it with some significant force?

Also, I'd be happy if you could update us: You said you had one core hotter than others. This is quite common and it "could" be that it needs a reseating, or reapplication of TIM. Did you have any better results after?

Thanks man! thumb.gif
post #24 of 31
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Originally Posted by theGryphon View Post

With SA SB-E i noticed you had two problems. First is quite manageable I think, which is the fan clips on the VRM board side (please still let me know how badly the middle fan mounts with the larger clips).



They haven't broken yet...
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The second one though is more concerning, when you said "I did notice also that one of the heatpipes is actually in contact with a cap on the big sticky up thing on the mobo so it's slanted by a degree or two, which I guess is what's causing that." Now, how bad is the contact? I mean, is it just touching, or is it seriously resting on it with some significant force?

It's really not much. Again, it's not broken yet tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by theGryphon View Post

Also, I'd be happy if you could update us: You said you had one core hotter than others. This is quite common and it "could" be that it needs a reseating, or reapplication of TIM. Did you have any better results after?

My not wanting to do either of those still trumps everything else so I don't have anything to say about this
post #25 of 31
Hey Mike, thanks!
Good to know the heatsink is not pressing strongly on the caps. I think I'll go ahead with the SA SB-E wink.gif
post #26 of 31
Have you try re-seating the heat sink?

I have very similar set up as yours and I am able to oc to 4.3 with around 75 C under made load. This is with a CM 212 hyper plus.

I would definitely RMA that GPU again.
post #27 of 31
sry double post delete please
post #28 of 31
Thanks for the build log, Mike!

As for the high temps, you might want to hold the second fan against the heatsinks and see if that adds to the cooling.

Quick question for you: how's the POST time in the Asus mobo? Thanks again.
post #29 of 31
i'm thinking of building a mini-ITX rig as well.

i currently have a Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme, which comes with "smaller" fans that the non-extreme version. I guess it would fit just fine, right? i'm thinking of installing one of the TY-143 fans as the case exhaust fan, replacing the stock exhaust fan. would that work?

two issues. would appreciate if someone can shed some light on those.

1. Don't know what motherboard to get. i want to get the ROG impact for its audio, but i don't know if the cooler will interfere with the audio "card".
@theGryphon which motherboard did you go with?

2. PSU! would my current PSU fit in there just fine? i have the original corsair tx850 that is not modular. it's only 160mm, so should fit fine....except for the large number of cables that come out of its arse!
post #30 of 31
I went with the ASUS Z87i-Deluxe, which has a perfect socket location for Silver Arrow and Node 304.
Impact has the same location but it has beefier VRM cooling, so I'm not 100% sure if it's gonna conflict with the Silver Arrow's heatpipes or not. Chances are, it won't. If you look closely and compare, Impact's VRM heatsink is a bit lower than that of Deluxe's... But, again, I can't say it for sure.

Another Mobo that I'm sure will work is the EVGA Z87 Stinger.
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