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Just because it doesn't ship with non-free doesn't mean you can't install them easily.
I'm aware of that. smile.gif
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I wouldn't necessarily call it elitism, since it actually does serve a use, they don't just thumb their nose at proprietary software/drivers.
Not including drivers nor software simply because they're proprietary is pretty elitist in my opinion. Much like how Apple were being elitist when they refused to support Flash.

I'm not disputing that Fedora / Redhat contribute massively to the FOSS ecosystem nor am I saying that such elitism doesn't have it's place. I just prefer not to see it on my desktop (after all, I run Linux because I'm sick of vendor lock ins and walled gardens, so I have no interest in imposing an arbitrary set of restrictions on Linux)
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Fedora invested in improving the nouveau driver, and it works so much better than it had prior to that. Red Hat and Fedora put time and money into improving FOSS options so there isn't only a proprietary option, which may work well, or poorly. It's all about the option.
'Options' would be developing FOSS solutions while still supporting proprietary ones as well.


Don't get me wrong, I don't have issue with philosophies like Fedora's. However that doesn't mean I have to share their views either.

fedora actually includes a large number of hardware drivers, which it makes exceptions for. debian is the one with that kind of policy.