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Yes, Intel is slowing down the introduction of 14nm .

That was never a premise of the article. Did you read it?

22nm launched with 3 fabs and had 4th came later. Due to good yields intel has way more 22nm capacity than they need. Delaying 14nm on one fab doesn't mean they are delaying it on all fabs.
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Lol. Intel taking it easy cause no competition.

Not really, article says that its because they built 3 22nm fabs and it was too much production for the market. If there was more competition they would have lesser market share.
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AMD selling more units would only make the problem worse since Intel would then have an even smaller slice of the slower-than-expected market. People are so very quick to attribute blame to popular sources instead of critically thinking. Misattribution to pop sources is like the argument equivalent of memes.
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post #24 of 127
Good news for AMD, bad for mankind that wants advancement.
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For the people happy about AMD setbacks and performance issues this is the reality of what will happen if AMD drops out of the race all together.

Us civilians didn't make bulldozer...
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This is the beginning of the end for Intel because this guys drop from the top.It will be a big drop with losses..

This athlet called Intel may end up pretty bad due to the lack of demand.
Intel will need to drop prices so people buy new products or to cut production to keep the price and linked to the demand.
The demand is dropping due to the many people having less money to buy PC-s in developing countries (the ones that in the las 10 year had 50-100% growths in this markets) and not necessarily that they all go for tablets (most have both).

This means less factories needed ,less people working for Intel and yes baby Intel stocks going down ,ahaha smile.gif.
   
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post #27 of 127
It's not about AMD at all. Very few games, or game styles I should say, are CPU intense. What, Starcraft II? Sure it's CPU limited, part of that is because they didn't bother to write the engine so that it handles 4 cores. *gasp*! Don't get me started on Skyrim either, as MANY people know they used some pretty crap decisions in their game code too. When you've got companies like Crytek showing us what we can do on current hardware, without it being CPU limied, it sends a message. I can run any game out there, the only limiting factor I have at the moment is my 460 and solid HDD. My PHII X4 currently plays any game at an extremely acceptable resolution and quality.

You have to remember, the majority of people who use computers aren't gamers. As far as general use goes, we've got both CPU/GPU power coming out of our ears (spin off from Carmack). Hell, even as far as gaming power is concerned. We've got more power than we know what to do with, on both sides. I know the BD release was a letdown but the real gain Intel has only shines in the non-consumer market. Most people don't use that power, though currently if PD shapes up AMD will have something strong all around. Sure, it's not the most powerful but they have a very good thing going. Brand new design, something Intel hasn't really done. Do they need too? Not really, we could probably survive with this current gen of hardware for another 5 years or more.

Well, I don't plan on upgrading my CPU at least for 3 years. Also, Steam for linux will make current hardware run quite a bit smoother. Check out the Nvidia B310 drivers, increases of up to 40FPS in some areas. Once more games get ported I'm going to guess you'll see a huge performance boost all around, on both Intel/AMD based machines (unsure how Radeon stuff will fly). So what do we honestly need this for? Most of this new stuff coming out is so you can get on a soap box and go "look at me". Current consoles may not be amazing, but what they have squeezed out of hardware that old is pretty good. Think of what we would do if developers actually focused on x86 optimizations across the board, if next gen consoles go that route (rumors no?) we might see the PC world get some of that innovation. There is a lot we can still do with this hardware, a crap ton.
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Intel can create demand buy making much faster CPU not 5% increase increments.
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post #29 of 127
I don't mind the delay, just go back to using solder for the lid!
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post #30 of 127
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It's not about AMD at all. Very few games, or game styles I should say, are CPU intense. What, Starcraft II? Sure it's CPU limited, part of that is because they didn't bother to write the engine so that it handles 4 cores. *gasp*! Don't get me started on Skyrim either, as MANY people know they used some pretty crap decisions in their game code too. When you've got companies like Crytek showing us what we can do on current hardware, without it being CPU limied, it sends a message. I can run any game out there, the only limiting factor I have at the moment is my 460 and solid HDD. My PHII X4 currently plays any game at an extremely acceptable resolution and quality.

Well ok but that doesn't change the fact that Intel is better right now, but AMD is on the right track to compete.
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