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post #11 of 34
ah I assume your talking about the CORSAIR Hydro H70? if so that will be pretty overkill if u dont plan on OCing
but if u need it quiet that might be the way to go
maby use the stock cooler the cpu comes with or even buy a nice reviewed cooler for your cpu on newegg or somthing that you like

for the laggy link opening you might have too much stuff open

I have this same retarded problem (windows wanting to stop aero) like idk how many weeks ago but I had to increese my paging file to like 6gb or somthing
now it puts a bunch of unwanted wear n tear on my hdd, I got 4gb ram but
it used to wine at me when I was only using like 2-3gb


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Edited by Higgins909 - 11/12/12 at 5:20am
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So would I need the hydro cooler even if I'm not gaming? I ask as it will set me back close to £50.

You don't need it whether or not you game. It is more of a question on how cool do you want your computer to run. Some people say closed water cooling loops are not necessary, and that a good air cooler will suffice. Some people think air coolers can work just as good as closed liquid cooling systems.

I think if you are going to but an aftermarket cooler for your CPU which I strongly recommend as the stock Intel coolers that come with the CPU are pretty bad.

In regards to air coolers vs. closed water loops. Water will always win. Its that water has a higher specific heat capacity than air, making it able to hold more heat. What increases the rate of the heat dissipation is your fans.

So the water will allow more heat to be taken up efficiently rather than spilled out into your case due to the low specific heat capacity of air as I mentioned. The fans determine how quickly that water can be cooled back down to its initial temperature (based upon air movement over the rad - known as CFM).

This is all science.

I believe the question is very difficult to answer, it really depends on how much you are willing to spend to achieve a desired temperature for your PC. What I would do is search peoples idle and load temperatures using suggested cooler, and see if those are temperatures you would feel comfortable with.

Again water > air.
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I am going to buy a hard drive too as the SSD is starting to fill up with pics and videos. I need something small, 320-500GB, can you suggest any?


Well if you are going to go for a 500GB I checked the current price of SSDs on pcpartpicker.com and the Samsung 840 500GB is your best deal. It is currently priced £325, making it cost £0.67/GB. When you look at the SSD page in that link keep in mind you lose ~10% of drive space. The displayed sizes are not actually sizes of the disks.

Samsung is a great company with good warranty.


Have fun with your build, and sorry for the late post, Brian smile.gif
post #13 of 34
Thread Starter 
Thank you both for the replies. I might look at getting the Hydro 70 later as I don't have the budget right now, especially if the new system still gets hot. Let me try it first.

I should have been clearer that I mean a mechanical hard drive (in addition to the existing Crucial M4 SSD). I want something around 320gb-500gb in a hard disk drive. What do you recommend?

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post #14 of 34
For HDD I would recommend Western Digital. They have amazing warranty. I would buy a caviar black 500GB drive. The caviar blacks are considered extremely reliable. On pcpartpicker it is £59.99.


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Thank you. Will look into that. I've heard lots of good things about the Samsung SpinPoint, so i'm better off with Western Digital? And the Cavier Black is better than the Green? What about the Blue?

The local store is out of stock so just to be sure it is this one (through your partpicker link): http://www.cclonline.com/product/89648/WD5003AZEX/Hard-Drives/Western-Digital-Caviar-Black-500GB/HDD1552/

Or I'll order from here depending which one can get it to me quicker via free delivery: http://www.ebuyer.com/394432-wd-500gb-black-desktop-drive-wd5003azex

Am I reading that right? 5 year warranty?!??
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Yep, Caviar Black has 5 years warranty. From my experience they are very reliable, but pricey due to that warranty. From what I have heard Green drives have high failure rate. Seagate kind of lost their reputation some time ago, and they also cut the warranty to 1 year on all their desktop drives. Samsung HDDs are now owned by Seagate.

I had no Seagate or Western Digital drive fail on me yet, but have two Samsung drives to have bad blocks over time (Same model. RMAed it once, second started to fail 2 years later).

But it's really a luck game these days, but with Western Digital Caviar Black, at least, you get 5 year warranty.

Blues aren't bad either in my experience, but I only had 2 2.5" Blue drives, and they are still working fine.
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post #17 of 34
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Fantastic. Everything is in place for the upgrade but one final question: memory. I am looking at Corsair 16GB ram. What is the difference and which is better between these two (both same price):


Corsair Memory XMS3 16GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 Quad Channel Desktop: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(4x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-xms3-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-15v

Corsair Memory Vengeance Black 16GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 XMP Dual Channel Desktop Sandybridge Ready: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(4x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-150v

There are actually others too on the page but not sure which one I should select? http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/memory-ram/240-pin-quad-channel-(1600mhz) (to go with MSI z77 g45 and i5 3550k in Cool Master 690 II Lite case).

Thank you. This should complete the upgrade!
    
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post #18 of 34
I would buy this (or something similar). Then you will have more room for future upgrades. Also less stress on IMC.
You could also save few bucks on a motherboard since 3550 cannot be overclocked, and go with H series chipset
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post #19 of 34
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But are 4 x 4GB not faster (double dual channel)? Will I ever need to upgrade to 32gb?? I heard 32gb is overkill and bottlenecks the processor anyway?

No I won't be overclocking. Just want a good solid motherboard that will last long. What motherboard do you have in mind?

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LGA1155 only support dual channel. So 2 sticks vs 4 sticks will give you the same performance. Performance will hurt if you use 1 or 3 sticks. Need for 32GB depends. For gaming? Not anytime soon. For heavy video editing, 3D modeling and etc. -might be useful.

As for motherboard, that was a suggestion to look around for similar loaded boards but on H77 chipset since they might be cheaper. I don't have anything specific in mind.
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