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11/10/12 at 4:02pm

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for the 5870, the Phenom will suffice. just add this over your mosfets (aware of xd's warning) . . .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835708012

and put a dedicated fan (80mm maybe) to blow over them. save your money and wait for steamroller or haswell.

edit: i am willing to bench my Phenom as a quad with an i3.

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11/10/12 at 6:25pm

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Why bother? Just get the 970a-ud3. It has better vrm and onboard usb3 header. It's an all around better board for the money.

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11/10/12 at 6:29pm

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Originally Posted by cresuso

The GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 is even cheaper than Asrock 990FX Extreme 3, i guess the extreme 3 is better right?

Actually the Gigabyte is better..and Asus and Biostar are better than both.IMO

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11/10/12 at 7:48pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cresuso

Yeh so i checked Asrock extreme 3 and extreme 4 differences, and i don't see anything worth 50€ difference........Did i miss something?

The 8+2 VRM phases for 1 thing. Possibly the only thing other than a possible difference in slot lay out? If you arent' looking to OC, I have to agree the Extreme is actually a decent choice. I chose one for my brother's machine.

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that is a thing of the past tho. intel has great support nowadays. an entry level h61 board although it doesn't support overclocking and has limited features it does support both sandy and ivybridge i7's and quite possibly even haswell.
dyou just purchased your cpu a few days ago so it's best to stick with it. get the asrock 990FX board. although the power phases in numbers isn't that impressive, it does have beefier vrm's so even a phenom II x6 at max overclocks would be more than enough for it. no sense of getting a much more expensive board. it would be just a waste and not worth the money imho

I never mentioned Intel and I don't' see what is a thing of the past? The Extreme 4 is still a new board and AMDs CPU compatibility is still pretty decent. Intel is getting better about but, unless the new generation of chips supports 1155 they have yet platform to rival LGA775's "forward compatibility" then again chips are getting so powerful today forwards compatibility isn't so much of an issue unless you "have to" upgrade.

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11/11/12 at 12:00am

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So the GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 seems to get the most votes, but i checked their website, and it says this :

"Support for DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz memory modules (Note 2)"

There is no 800Mhz ? Cause i can run my ddr3 at 800Mhz STABLE only on this board (1066Mhz is unstable and 1333Mhz require 1.8+V in order to work.....)

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11/11/12 at 12:05am

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My I ask why you are using 800mhz memory modules? They are going to be stupidly slow.

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11/11/12 at 12:08am

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My memory modules can all run at 1333Mhz (i bought a new yesterday, its a corsair 8GB vengeance and it can run at 1600Mhz), the problem is it won't work on my motherboard. As i said earlier, if i wanna to get it run at 1333Mhz i need to set voltage at 1.8+v which is risky from what i read on the net.

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11/11/12 at 12:10am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by noobhell

My I ask why you are using 800mhz memory modules? They are going to be stupidly slow.

I think his board doesn't like it.. His sig says "1333MHz", i'd say that they're underclocked.. Speaking of that the board should be OK with running them slower but you'll notice a massive decrease in performance.

I vote for the Gigabyte as they generally have better quality boards, it's cheaper? and it's got better VRM's + USB3. The 990FX is only needed for dual graphics cards.. OP has stated that he will be sticking with single cards so 990FX is pointless.

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11/11/12 at 12:15am

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So the fact that i can't run ram at 1333Mhz is a problem with this board or incompatibility ? Because i got 3 corsair ram (1x8Go + 2x2Go) + 1 generic (1x2go)

I mean will it be a problem if i get GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 ?

Also i saw that the gigabyte mobo isn't am3+ hardware compatible since you have to update the bios, does it affect really performance?
Edited by cresuso - 11/11/12 at 12:57am

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11/11/12 at 12:57am

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^ Okay, you are mixing a lot of different RAM. That might have a lot to do with the bad stability, aside from also having 4 DIMMs in your setup which strains the IMC. Shot in the dark here but this could actually also be a board/BIOS issue with more RAM or a certain DIMM of your RAM. It's very rare but I've seen it (and I've seen such instability cured with an update of the BIOS).

I think the reason why they don't list 800Mhz is because DDR3-800 isn't even sold nowadays o_o however the x4 multiplier for 800mhz DDR3 running should be there.

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