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11/11/12 at 1:12am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xd_1771

^ Okay, you are mixing a lot of different RAM. That might have a lot to do with the bad stability, aside from also having 4 DIMMs in your setup which strains the IMC. Shot in the dark here but this could actually also be a board/BIOS issue with more RAM or a certain DIMM of your RAM. It's very rare but I've seen it (and I've seen such instability cured with an update of the BIOS).

I think the reason why they don't list 800Mhz is because DDR3-800 isn't even sold nowadays o_o however the x4 multiplier for 800mhz DDR3 running should be there.

This, that is an intense mix of RAM you've got there.. 14GB too :s

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
Convertible i5 3570k (De-Lidded)	Gigabyte Z77x-D3H	HIS Radeon 7950 IceQ Turbo @ 950/1250MHz (CFX)	Sapphire 7950 DualX @ 950/1250MHz (CFX)
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
16GB Samsung Eco	Samsung Spinpoint	Western Digital Green	Crucial M4
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
Seagate Barracuda	2x OEM DVD Drives	Heatkiller Rev 3.0	XSPC RX360
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Laing D5 + XSPC Res	Primochill Bloodshed Red Tubing	Windows 7 Pro x64	Asus VEH228H
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech G510	Silverstone Strider 850W	HAF 932	Logitech G400
Mouse Pad	Audio	Other	Other
SteelSeries QCK Fnatic	Logitech x-230's	Logitech C100 Webcam	TP-Link Wireless N 150MBPS
Other	Other
Bitspower Dual Red/Orange Cathode kit (30cm)	Lamptron CCFL Sound Activated Module
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Pentium E2140	HP OEM Board	HIS Radeon 4350 (Low profile adapter)	4GB DDR2 667
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
500GB Hitachi Sata	LG Sata DVD+RW	Stock OEM soloution	Windows 7 Professional
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
42" Toshiba LED TV	Logitech MK260 Wireless Combo	350W OEM	HP Proliant Case
Mouse	Audio	Audio
Logitech MK260 Wireless Combo	Onboard	Onboard
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Convertible i5 3570k (De-Lidded)	Gigabyte Z77x-D3H	HIS Radeon 7950 IceQ Turbo @ 950/1250MHz (CFX)	Sapphire 7950 DualX @ 950/1250MHz (CFX)
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
16GB Samsung Eco	Samsung Spinpoint	Western Digital Green	Crucial M4
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
Seagate Barracuda	2x OEM DVD Drives	Heatkiller Rev 3.0	XSPC RX360
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Laing D5 + XSPC Res	Primochill Bloodshed Red Tubing	Windows 7 Pro x64	Asus VEH228H
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech G510	Silverstone Strider 850W	HAF 932	Logitech G400
Mouse Pad	Audio	Other	Other
SteelSeries QCK Fnatic	Logitech x-230's	Logitech C100 Webcam	TP-Link Wireless N 150MBPS
Other	Other
Bitspower Dual Red/Orange Cathode kit (30cm)	Lamptron CCFL Sound Activated Module
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Pentium E2140	HP OEM Board	HIS Radeon 4350 (Low profile adapter)	4GB DDR2 667
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
500GB Hitachi Sata	LG Sata DVD+RW	Stock OEM soloution	Windows 7 Professional
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
42" Toshiba LED TV	Logitech MK260 Wireless Combo	350W OEM	HP Proliant Case
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Logitech MK260 Wireless Combo	Onboard	Onboard
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11/11/12 at 4:24am

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Alright, ill pick the gigabyte mobo then, thanks for the infos !

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 4.0Ghz ~ 1.46 V	MSI 785GM-E51	ATI HD 5870 Saphire	Samsung DDR3 14Go 1333Mhz
Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Samsung 320Go Sata	Windows 7	1600 * 1200	1366 x 768
Power	Case
Corsair 400w	Zalman Z9 Plus
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Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 4.0Ghz ~ 1.46 V	MSI 785GM-E51	ATI HD 5870 Saphire	Samsung DDR3 14Go 1333Mhz
Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Samsung 320Go Sata	Windows 7	1600 * 1200	1366 x 768
Power	Case
Corsair 400w	Zalman Z9 Plus
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11/12/12 at 5:50am

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14gb and all mismatched!?

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
Phenom II 1100T	AsRock Extreme4 990FX	HD4850	HD4850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G	Barracuda 7200.10	WD Green	Crucial M4
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
EVGA Superclock CPU Cooler	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Hanns,G Hi221	Dell E198WFP
Keyboard	Power	Case	Audio
Saitek Eclipse	Corsair TX850W	NZXT M59	Asus Xonar D1
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
C2Q Q9550	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP	GTX 570	Samsung Green
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB	Hyper 212 EVO	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Lubuntu 12.10 x64
OS	Power	Case
OS X 10.6.8	TX750	Haf 912
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CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
T9300	GT 240M	DDR2	WD10JPVT
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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Phenom II 1100T	AsRock Extreme4 990FX	HD4850	HD4850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G	Barracuda 7200.10	WD Green	Crucial M4
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
EVGA Superclock CPU Cooler	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Hanns,G Hi221	Dell E198WFP
Keyboard	Power	Case	Audio
Saitek Eclipse	Corsair TX850W	NZXT M59	Asus Xonar D1
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
C2Q Q9550	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP	GTX 570	Samsung Green
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB	Hyper 212 EVO	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Lubuntu 12.10 x64
OS	Power	Case
OS X 10.6.8	TX750	Haf 912
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CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
T9300	GT 240M	DDR2	WD10JPVT
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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11/12/12 at 5:53am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cresuso

I mean i can buy a motherboard that costs 150€ but problem is, i'll have to change the mobo in like 2 years maybe for new cpu because of socket?? And whats the biggest benefit of putting 150€ in a motherboard ?? Does it make my pc performance really better??

That's just the point of the getting the 150 board so you DON'T have to get a new board in two years. get decent board now and settling with good hardware and it will last 4 years or even more. will it be outdated? Yes but, it will still be very usable competent

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
Phenom II 1100T	AsRock Extreme4 990FX	HD4850	HD4850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G	Barracuda 7200.10	WD Green	Crucial M4
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
EVGA Superclock CPU Cooler	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Hanns,G Hi221	Dell E198WFP
Keyboard	Power	Case	Audio
Saitek Eclipse	Corsair TX850W	NZXT M59	Asus Xonar D1
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
C2Q Q9550	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP	GTX 570	Samsung Green
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB	Hyper 212 EVO	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Lubuntu 12.10 x64
OS	Power	Case
OS X 10.6.8	TX750	Haf 912
View all

CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
T9300	GT 240M	DDR2	WD10JPVT
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
Phenom II 1100T	AsRock Extreme4 990FX	HD4850	HD4850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G	Barracuda 7200.10	WD Green	Crucial M4
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
EVGA Superclock CPU Cooler	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Hanns,G Hi221	Dell E198WFP
Keyboard	Power	Case	Audio
Saitek Eclipse	Corsair TX850W	NZXT M59	Asus Xonar D1
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
C2Q Q9550	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP	GTX 570	Samsung Green
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB	Hyper 212 EVO	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Lubuntu 12.10 x64
OS	Power	Case
OS X 10.6.8	TX750	Haf 912
View all

CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
T9300	GT 240M	DDR2	WD10JPVT
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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11/12/12 at 6:00am

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I wouldn't bank on any 4 year plan with AMD. Honestly, I wouldn't bank on a 2 year plan. Don't get me wrong, I love my 960T (X6@4.0), but at stock the 2500K I have is at least as fast, and the 3570Ks I own are faster at stock, and all three of those chips can run easy multiplier overclocks at stock settingss and use far less power.

Do you really think AMD is going to release CPUs any time soon that will bridge that gap? I don't, and I think this has been pretty clear in the last few years.

If you're a gamer, going 1155 and upgrading to an Ivy Bridge in 2 years will still be far better than anything AMD will produce for AM3.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
i7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz offset	ASrock X79 Extreme6/GB	EVGA GTX680 FTW with EK waterblock	EVGA GTX650 for PhysX
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
G-Skill 4x4GB DDR3 1866 8-9-9-24@1.5V	Samsung 840 Pro 128GB	Agility 3 240GB x2 RAID 0	WD 500GB X2 RAID 0
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
XSPC Raystorm	XSPC Dual Bay reservoir with Alphacool variable...	Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Triple 120mm...	EK GTX680 FTW waterblock
OS	Monitor	Power	Case
Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate	HP tSS-25X11LED 25" 1080p	PC Power&Cooling Silentpower 910W	Xigmatek Elysium
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Razer Deathadder 3500	Rocketfish	Creative Sound Core3D	Logitech Z5300
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
960T unlocked to X6	ASUS M4A79XTD Evo	Sapphire HD6870 1GB	2x2GB Ripjaws 7-8-7-24 F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Crucial M4 128GB	WD 320GB HDD	Lite-On DVD-RW	Corsair H100
OS	Power	Case
Win 7 x64 Ultimate	OCZ Stealthstream 600W	HAF XB
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Q9550 @ 4.3/1.344 24/7 EIST	EP45-UD3P @506 FSB	Gainward GTX 460	2x2GB GSkill 1100
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
120GB OCZ Vertex Plus	2x160GB WD RAID 0	Samsung DVD-RW	Swiftech Apogee HD
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Swiftech 120mm Radiator	Swiftech reservior	Windows 7 x64 Ultimate	ACER 22"
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech	Thermaltake Toughpower 750W w/ fan mod	Antec 900, refinished white	Logitech G300
Audio
On-board Realtek
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
i7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz offset	ASrock X79 Extreme6/GB	EVGA GTX680 FTW with EK waterblock	EVGA GTX650 for PhysX
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
G-Skill 4x4GB DDR3 1866 8-9-9-24@1.5V	Samsung 840 Pro 128GB	Agility 3 240GB x2 RAID 0	WD 500GB X2 RAID 0
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
XSPC Raystorm	XSPC Dual Bay reservoir with Alphacool variable...	Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Triple 120mm...	EK GTX680 FTW waterblock
OS	Monitor	Power	Case
Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate	HP tSS-25X11LED 25" 1080p	PC Power&Cooling Silentpower 910W	Xigmatek Elysium
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Razer Deathadder 3500	Rocketfish	Creative Sound Core3D	Logitech Z5300
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
960T unlocked to X6	ASUS M4A79XTD Evo	Sapphire HD6870 1GB	2x2GB Ripjaws 7-8-7-24 F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Crucial M4 128GB	WD 320GB HDD	Lite-On DVD-RW	Corsair H100
OS	Power	Case
Win 7 x64 Ultimate	OCZ Stealthstream 600W	HAF XB
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Q9550 @ 4.3/1.344 24/7 EIST	EP45-UD3P @506 FSB	Gainward GTX 460	2x2GB GSkill 1100
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
120GB OCZ Vertex Plus	2x160GB WD RAID 0	Samsung DVD-RW	Swiftech Apogee HD
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Swiftech 120mm Radiator	Swiftech reservior	Windows 7 x64 Ultimate	ACER 22"
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech	Thermaltake Toughpower 750W w/ fan mod	Antec 900, refinished white	Logitech G300
Audio
On-board Realtek
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11/13/12 at 3:52am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2thAche

I wouldn't bank on any 4 year plan with AMD. Honestly, I wouldn't bank on a 2 year plan. Don't get me wrong, I love my 960T (X6@4.0), but at stock the 2500K I have is at least as fast, and the 3570Ks I own are faster at stock, and all three of those chips can run easy multiplier overclocks at stock settingss and use far less power.
Do you really think AMD is going to release CPUs any time soon that will bridge that gap? I don't, and I think this has been pretty clear in the last few years.
If you're a gamer, going 1155 and upgrading to an Ivy Bridge in 2 years will still be far better than anything AMD will produce for AM3.

I'm sure an 07 six core would murder my 1100T how ever it runs all the games i ask it to at reasonable settings, if you see where i'm going. Even if Visherai s the last of the am3+ in few years you oculd upgrade to the best vishera ever made extending the life/capabilities a few more years (no max games settings, oh well).

My brother's backup 939 system with a GTS250 plays Batman AA and BioShock buttery smoother at 60-70+ FPS @ 1440x900. If you want the fastest you need be prepared to upgrade AT LEAST once a year if not twice or more.

Oh and as far as socket 1155, it's a good choice for gamer but, so can other socket like AM+ if you are on a budget and don't want need the best of the best.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
Phenom II 1100T	AsRock Extreme4 990FX	HD4850	HD4850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G	Barracuda 7200.10	WD Green	Crucial M4
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
EVGA Superclock CPU Cooler	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Hanns,G Hi221	Dell E198WFP
Keyboard	Power	Case	Audio
Saitek Eclipse	Corsair TX850W	NZXT M59	Asus Xonar D1
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
C2Q Q9550	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP	GTX 570	Samsung Green
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB	Hyper 212 EVO	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Lubuntu 12.10 x64
OS	Power	Case
OS X 10.6.8	TX750	Haf 912
View all

CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
T9300	GT 240M	DDR2	WD10JPVT
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
Phenom II 1100T	AsRock Extreme4 990FX	HD4850	HD4850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G	Barracuda 7200.10	WD Green	Crucial M4
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
EVGA Superclock CPU Cooler	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Hanns,G Hi221	Dell E198WFP
Keyboard	Power	Case	Audio
Saitek Eclipse	Corsair TX850W	NZXT M59	Asus Xonar D1
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
C2Q Q9550	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP	GTX 570	Samsung Green
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB	Hyper 212 EVO	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Lubuntu 12.10 x64
OS	Power	Case
OS X 10.6.8	TX750	Haf 912
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CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
T9300	GT 240M	DDR2	WD10JPVT
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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11/15/12 at 9:10am

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A friend advised me to buy the Asus Sabertooth FX990, what do you guys think, is it worth it ? Or the Gigabyte 970a UD3 is as good as Sabertooth FX990 in term of overclocking ?

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 4.0Ghz ~ 1.46 V	MSI 785GM-E51	ATI HD 5870 Saphire	Samsung DDR3 14Go 1333Mhz
Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Samsung 320Go Sata	Windows 7	1600 * 1200	1366 x 768
Power	Case
Corsair 400w	Zalman Z9 Plus
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 4.0Ghz ~ 1.46 V	MSI 785GM-E51	ATI HD 5870 Saphire	Samsung DDR3 14Go 1333Mhz
Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Samsung 320Go Sata	Windows 7	1600 * 1200	1366 x 768
Power	Case
Corsair 400w	Zalman Z9 Plus
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12/5/12 at 1:17pm

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I prefer the 990FX chipset just in case there is any future cpu incompatibility with the 970 chipset. The saber tooth is supposedly a great board. Asus usually makes solid products.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
Phenom II 1100T	AsRock Extreme4 990FX	HD4850	HD4850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G	Barracuda 7200.10	WD Green	Crucial M4
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
EVGA Superclock CPU Cooler	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Hanns,G Hi221	Dell E198WFP
Keyboard	Power	Case	Audio
Saitek Eclipse	Corsair TX850W	NZXT M59	Asus Xonar D1
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
C2Q Q9550	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP	GTX 570	Samsung Green
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB	Hyper 212 EVO	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Lubuntu 12.10 x64
OS	Power	Case
OS X 10.6.8	TX750	Haf 912
View all

CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
T9300	GT 240M	DDR2	WD10JPVT
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
Phenom II 1100T	AsRock Extreme4 990FX	HD4850	HD4850
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G	Barracuda 7200.10	WD Green	Crucial M4
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Monitor
EVGA Superclock CPU Cooler	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Hanns,G Hi221	Dell E198WFP
Keyboard	Power	Case	Audio
Saitek Eclipse	Corsair TX850W	NZXT M59	Asus Xonar D1
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
C2Q Q9550	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP	GTX 570	Samsung Green
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	OS
55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB	Hyper 212 EVO	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit	Lubuntu 12.10 x64
OS	Power	Case
OS X 10.6.8	TX750	Haf 912
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CPU	Graphics	RAM	Hard Drive
T9300	GT 240M	DDR2	WD10JPVT
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
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12/5/12 at 1:39pm

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Yeh i finally bought the Sabertooth, thanks anyway

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 4.0Ghz ~ 1.46 V	MSI 785GM-E51	ATI HD 5870 Saphire	Samsung DDR3 14Go 1333Mhz
Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Samsung 320Go Sata	Windows 7	1600 * 1200	1366 x 768
Power	Case
Corsair 400w	Zalman Z9 Plus
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Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 4.0Ghz ~ 1.46 V	MSI 785GM-E51	ATI HD 5870 Saphire	Samsung DDR3 14Go 1333Mhz
Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Samsung 320Go Sata	Windows 7	1600 * 1200	1366 x 768
Power	Case
Corsair 400w	Zalman Z9 Plus
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