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post #11 of 20
11/12/12 at 10:43am
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I've been digging around the forums looking for controller advice and found SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA II (3.0Gb/s) Controller Card or HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL PCI-Express 2.0.
Which one is better?

The SuperMicro controller is software raid...basically meaning the card is just a port multiplier. With a $200 budget for a raid controller, get a Dell PERC 6/i from eBay.

$40 used, 1 hour to go. Comes with Battery Backup and 2 SAS Cables (which you wouldn't need).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-PERC6-i-Integrated-SAS-RAID-Card-R905-Server-0T774H-Battery-Cables-/200845518118?pt=US_Server_Disk_Controllers_RAID_Cards&hash=item2ec3536526

Two of these cables:
http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-S502-20N-Internal-inches/dp/B0027JQI9O/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1350059385&sr=1-6&keywords=PERC+6i

Less than $100 you can get a great hardware controller (a few years old, but definitely a serious controller) along with battery backup and cables, to connect 8 hard drives (does NOT support 3TB drives). Can do Raid 0/1/5/10/50/60/JBOD
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post #12 of 20
11/12/12 at 10:51am
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I've been digging around the forums looking for controller advice and found SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA II (3.0Gb/s) Controller Card or HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL PCI-Express 2.0.
Which one is better?

not only what tycoon said but that first super micro card is PCI-"X" so in that term you need a sever motherboard for that as it wont work in any desktop motherboard.
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post #13 of 20
11/12/12 at 11:22am
PCIX cards fit in PCI slots, but they will run at the slower PCI speed.
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post #14 of 20
11/12/12 at 12:14pm
wouldnt you have to cut the back of the port off so it fits as i thought they are offset differently
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post #15 of 20
11/12/12 at 12:22pm
Why RAID10?

RAID5 with a hotspare or RAID6 would generally be better... you don't need the performance gains of RAID10.
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post #16 of 20
11/12/12 at 2:08pm
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Why RAID10?
RAID5 with a hotspare or RAID6 would generally be better... you don't need the performance gains of RAID10.

You may as well go RAID10, he says he's gonna have 4 drives.
You'll lose more to parity but meh.

Also, +1 to the PERC6/i
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post #17 of 20
11/12/12 at 2:39pm
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wouldnt you have to cut the back of the port off so it fits as i thought they are offset differently

No. I have an old dual port PCIX intel NIC in a PCI slot in my router box, no modding necessary. The loss of speed doesn't pose an issue for me since I will never be transferring anywhere near the PCI bus limit across the router, but it would hurt your potential speed if you were to go that route for a RAID/SATA card.
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post #18 of 20
11/12/12 at 9:04pm
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You may as well go RAID10, he says he's gonna have 4 drives.
You'll lose more to parity but meh.
Also, +1 to the PERC6/i


RAID5 would provide 50% more space though.... with only 4 drives, redundancy through 1 parity drive should be enough.
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11/13/12 at 5:52am
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RAID5 would provide 50% more space though.... with only 4 drives, redundancy through 1 parity drive should be enough.

I agree with Duckie on this. If you are talking about 4 drives on a hardware controller such as a PERC 6/i, I see no reason to go with a Raid 10 over Raid 5 if performance isn't a top requirement. Raid 10 does have better performance than a Raid 5, but that's not saying Raid 5 is bad. Even running VMs over iSCSI, a Raid 5 will be enough. Raid 10 would give the BEST performance, but Raid 5 would still give great performance.

With the PERC 6/i, 2TB drives is the largest supported so with Raid 5 you are getting 6TB of storage with 1 parity, whereas you would get 4TB usable storage with a Raid 10. Get a BBU, and you will be able to cache without worries. With Raid 10 you can loose 2 drives, but only 1 drive from each sub-Raid 1 array...and if you loose 1 drive it should be replaced immediately. Use that same logic with a Raid 5 and you will be fine.
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11/13/12 at 2:17pm
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I agree with Duckie on this. If you are talking about 4 drives on a hardware controller such as a PERC 6/i, I see no reason to go with a Raid 10 over Raid 5 if performance isn't a top requirement. Raid 10 does have better performance than a Raid 5, but that's not saying Raid 5 is bad. Even running VMs over iSCSI, a Raid 5 will be enough. Raid 10 would give the BEST performance, but Raid 5 would still give great performance.
With the PERC 6/i, 2TB drives is the largest supported so with Raid 5 you are getting 6TB of storage with 1 parity, whereas you would get 4TB usable storage with a Raid 10. Get a BBU, and you will be able to cache without worries. With Raid 10 you can loose 2 drives, but only 1 drive from each sub-Raid 1 array...and if you loose 1 drive it should be replaced immediately. Use that same logic with a Raid 5 and you will be fine.

I agree, it's just up to the OP if they want performance or space the most.

For me it would be RAID10, first for performance and second for durability.

And yes, get a BBU for the PERC, and try and get one with a 512mb cache.
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