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post #21 of 32
11/10/12 at 10:42pm
One thing to try is make sure its in a sata 3 port. On my motherboard there is a specific spot (A0) for my or any ssd. Have you checked your book or a diagram to see if you are plugging it in the best/fastest sata port?
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11/10/12 at 11:20pm
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Make sure your SSD is plugged into the intel sata (if using intel) ports. Also, make sure you have RST installed if you are using intel that is.
I do have RST installed, but it doesn't matter much if they're both connected in AHCI. They two drive are in proper spots (both in Intel SATA III 6 GB/s ports).
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You dont need the realtek software to run at startup, unless you want notifications of when you plug something in or out. You can remove the start up entry and if in any case you need to setup up something you can find the sound manager in control panel. Drivers aren't initiated from start up entries in msconfig, with the exception of a few such as the ever so crappy Razer synapse 2.0.
I don't exactly know what that Microsoft office start up entry is for, but if it's the default one more than likely you can disable that too as it's not needed. Also, if you don't overclock your GPU, through catalyst or mess with any of the options in there, whether it be scaling or application profiles you can safely disable that too.
I disabled the Microsoft Office and Realtek off startup.
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One thing to try is make sure its in a sata 3 port. On my motherboard there is a specific spot (A0) for my or any ssd. Have you checked your book or a diagram to see if you are plugging it in the best/fastest sata port?
From what I've read, the drives seem to be in their proper ports.
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post #23 of 32
11/10/12 at 11:25pm
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Hi there Overclock.net. Long time lurker, first time poster. Bear with me, I may leave out information that you might need.

I recently added a new Samsung SSD 128GB SATA III (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147163) to my rig, and installed Windows 7 Home Premium to it for what I thought would be a fast startup. However, for whatever reason the startup is fairly slow (if not slower than it was with my HDD). I'll post my specs below as well as a list of startup services and programs. Just to say beforehand, I've tried the following things and got the following results:

Startup did not improve at all:
Disconnected the 2nd hard drive before starting up.
Changed my RAM slots before starting up.
Defragged my SDD before starting up.
Clocked up CPU from 3.3 GHz to 3.8 GHz before starting up.
Unplugged USB devices before starting up.
Unplugged sound card before starting up.

Startup did become noticeably faster:
Booted in Safe Mode.

That is the only thing I've done so far that made a notable difference to the startup speed. Because of that I have a feeling one of my startup services or programs is slowing down the boot. I can't pinpoint which one it is, if it is that, and would like help with that. Also, I don't see any errors in booting. Please let me know if there's anything glaring you see. It's not a BIG PROBLEM but it's something that's troubled me since the ONLY REASON I bought this SSD was for bootup speed.

Specs:
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit)
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model Z68X-UD3H-B3
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3601 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. F12, 3/20/2012
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 7.92 GB

GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6870 1GB 256-bit
SSD (C:\): Samsung 830 Series 128GB
HDD (F:\): Western Digital 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1866
PSU: Cooler Master 800 W Silent Pro Gold Series
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Champion PCIe

The screenshots attached (sorry I did it that way, I wasn't sure how best to do it) show the services and programs I have set to boot up with the computer. Any and all help as to why my SSD is loading so slowly would be appreciated. Thanks!
First off defragging a SSD is a no-no, it does nothing good for the drive.

Second, go to MSCONFIG. disable GUI on boot and go to the boot tab and disable all start up items. All of them. Go to the services tab and check the "hide all M$ services" box then click disable all of the services.

Once done reboot and see if it is faster.

The you can start enabling stuff again after one by one to see if it was a program causing it.

You may also want to disable stuff in the bios you dont need to disable splash screens etc.
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Make sure your SSD is plugged into the intel sata (if using intel) ports. Also, make sure you have RST installed if you are using intel that is.
it is in teh Intel port, and RST is installed...didn't you see AS SSD Xeb? 0.o
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One thing to try is make sure its in a sata 3 port. On my motherboard there is a specific spot (A0) for my or any ssd. Have you checked your book or a diagram to see if you are plugging it in the best/fastest sata port?
It is in the Intel port, didn't you see AS SSD? o.0
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11/10/12 at 11:32pm
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11/10/12 at 11:35pm
do you have any network drives mapped? I have a linux home server and if its turned off windows 7 waits 30 seconds on boot for the drives to 'appear'
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11/10/12 at 11:42pm
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post #27 of 32
11/10/12 at 11:59pm
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So I began testing the startup programs and services individually and found something pretty interesting. With everything disabled (excluding windows services), I still got the same boot delay. However, in safe mode I did not get that boot delay.
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11/11/12 at 12:30am
I'm goin to bed right now, but I'll look into it more tomorrow.

Maybe look into event viewer and see if something is showing up there causing the hang.

Only the USB and mouse are connected correct, nothing else like a wifi dongle, camera, external HDD, etc?

Did you go through my guide yet?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds#post_15523325
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post #29 of 32
11/11/12 at 1:16am
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I'm goin to bed right now, but I'll look into it more tomorrow.
Maybe look into event viewer and see if something is showing up there causing the hang.
Only the USB and mouse are connected correct, nothing else like a wifi dongle, camera, external HDD, etc?
Did you go through my guide yet?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds#post_15523325

There's nothing error-wise in the event viewer and I don't see anything too alarming in the startup event recap.
I did try booting with only mouse and keyboard connected, same delay.

As for your guide, I'll go through it tomorrow when I have time and let you know how it pans out.

*EDIT*

I did find something in my startup event viewer.

startup_pnp.png

There's a 38 second block between two of the events. The lower event is:
Event ID: 2, Source: MEIx64 - "Intel(R) Management Engine Interface driver has started successfully."

The two events right above it are:
Event ID: 7036, Source: Service Control Manager - "The Plug and Play service entered the running state."
Event ID: 20010, Source: UserPnp - "One or more of the Plug and Play service's subsystems has changed state.

PlugPlay install subsystem enabled: 'true'
PlugPlay caching subsystem enabled: 'true' "

Mean anything important at all? That's the only noticeable break in between events during boot up. Everything else finished with little time between events from 19:26 to 19:47.
Edited by RisenLazarus - 11/11/12 at 1:39am
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11/11/12 at 7:02pm
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Any idea what that noticeable stall in the startup between those two events might be caused by?
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