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That seems more logical, what Microsoft planned on doing (simplifying cross platform capabilities) made it a huge success. The I still do enjoy them few who claim Windows 8 to be the next Vista. doh.gif
I find it hard to believe within 3 years, the world grew that much. And if it did people are struggling to make it by on life's essentials (food, shelter, etc). There is in fact less students going to college these days, because of our nations economical crisis. It's not population growth, im pretty sure the amount of places the OS can be used is a more viable explanation for its success.

What's not logical about there being more people with disposable income?

In countries like the UK and US, the death rate is lower than the birth rate and has been for some time. Since old people (closer to dying) aren't rushing out to buy a tablet and desktop that leaves the possibility of younger people doing the opposite. . It's wholly plausible that there are more young people today than who don't have laptopsm tablets, etc, than there were in 2009 due to the fact that the birth rate has been higher than the death rate for decades. Since 2009 these people (16-19, say) have started working and earning money and need something to spend it on. If that isn't mobile phones and tablet PC's then I have no idea what young people spend their money on (except hard drugs and liquor).

I'm not backing Knuckle, there, in saying that the ONLY reason Win8 sold so was was that, but I'm objecting to your dismissal of the idea that there are more young people with buying power today than there were in 2009. It's statistically improbable to say there aren't.
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Can you show us this "overhead" exactly? You do understand that the Start Menu banks its resources when not in use. Essentially when you're not in it, its as if its not even running.

I know. I can. The App directory, the extra settings, the Metro interface itself (on a non-touch computer) it's all overhead to me. I don't use it so I wish I could remove it. Mind you Windows 8 on a tablet is magnificent, I just don't like all those touch related extra's on an ordinary computer. That doesn't mean I don't like the improvements. I'm not a fanboy, I can see grey apart from black and white smile.gif
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I find it hard to believe within 3 years, the world grew that much. And if it did people are struggling to make it by on life's essentials (food, shelter, etc). There is in fact less students going to college these days, because of our nations economical crisis. It's not population growth, im pretty sure the amount of places the OS can be used is a more viable explanation for its success.

What you believe is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that the population of the planet has grown by over 300 million people and more people have technology in their hands.
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Actually you are paying (or your parents are ... or other tax payers if you are scholarships at a public school ... or other people if you are on scholarships at a private school) about $75,000 for a copy of Windows 8 and they throw in a free 4 year degree. biggrin.gif
It all depends on how you look at it.
NOTHING in this world is free. It MAY be "free to you", but it is never free.

Actually, the DramSpark program membership is pretty cheap for the departments that offer technical education (engineering, physics, IT, etc) last I looked it was about 1000$ "registration fee" per year and in return the School were free to give memberships to any student that qualifies. Remember, it's not only Windows 8 in there - some of the stuff that MicroSoft hads out "free" costs substantially more than 1000$ per license to buy "off the shelf" - for example, various Enterprise level stuff which is not even for sale for "oridinary people". So it's not "the taxpayers" who end up shelling out cash for every licence of Win 8 student downloads. MicroSoft does it to get people who will matter tomorrow corporations in tech and software related decisions used to using MicroSoft products, as if the people who would be making decisions would not be familiar with their products ... well .. that might end up costly down the road. costlier than just handing out free licenses to almost anything they want to students who are in the "right" field. The 1000 $ registration fee per year is just a small aftertought and I doubt it even covers the support staff for the DreamSpark.
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^Yeah I have a DreamSpark account through my college and there's all kinds of fancy stuff on there, some of it normally VERY pricey but free to me. Especially so because I paid $0 to attend because Pell grant. biggrin.gif
post #146 of 161
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Actually you are paying (or your parents are ... or other tax payers if you are scholarships at a public school ... or other people if you are on scholarships at a private school) about $75,000 for a copy of Windows 8 and they throw in a free 4 year degree. biggrin.gif
It all depends on how you look at it.
NOTHING in this world is free. It MAY be "free to you", but it is never free.

Actually, the DramSpark program membership is pretty cheap for the departments that offer technical education (engineering, physics, IT, etc) last I looked it was about 1000$ "registration fee" per year and in return the School were free to give memberships to any student that qualifies. Remember, it's not only Windows 8 in there - some of the stuff that MicroSoft hads out "free" costs substantially more than 1000$ per license to buy "off the shelf" - for example, various Enterprise level stuff which is not even for sale for "oridinary people". So it's not "the taxpayers" who end up shelling out cash for every licence of Win 8 student downloads. MicroSoft does it to get people who will matter tomorrow corporations in tech and software related decisions used to using MicroSoft products, as if the people who would be making decisions would not be familiar with their products ... well .. that might end up costly down the road. costlier than just handing out free licenses to almost anything they want to students who are in the "right" field. The 1000 $ registration fee per year is just a small aftertought and I doubt it even covers the support staff for the DreamSpark.
That's only premium. You can get the other one for free.
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It won't really matter but still a very consumer unfriendly move by Microsoft. Basically there is no technical reason for this, like limiting Halo 2 to Vista they are just trying to drive people to their new OS.

I dislike Microsoft more and more everyday. I just wish there were good alternatives for gamers.
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It won't really matter but still a very consumer unfriendly move by Microsoft. Basically there is no technical reason for this, like limiting Halo 2 to Vista they are just trying to drive people to their new OS.
I dislike Microsoft more and more everyday. I just wish there were good alternatives for gamers.

agreed. if linux ever has mainstream games run natively windows would lose alot of users as most gamers are tech savvy too and know linux is better but stay cause of games..
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/13/microsoft-warns-gamers-directx-11-1-is-windows-8-only/

Looks confirmed..

Eh, that said DX10 was Vista only, MS backtracked on that one if i remember right...
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Not a big deal at all, as developers wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot only supporting one OS. Besides how many games are Windows 7 only? none because most games are DX 9 or 10 which vista and XP still support.
Well hold on to your pants because COD BL2 isn't supporting XP. I swear that's a first time I've ever said that line. And something I thought I'd never say that either. Please don't take that the wrong way, it's just something I thought while reading your post.
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