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I just want a movie out of that trailer.

It reminds me a little of the first battle in Lord of The Rings, which should have been a movie only for that epic battle too biggrin.gif
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yeah , FFXI and FFXIV wasnt a game for the masses , its more of a hardcore masochistic mmo ... u hate it , but will love it when u killed the last boss for a RNG bow and in the PT there's no RNG .....


yeah , thats FF mmo , btw the most profitable FF of the series is...... Final Fantasy 11 ... thats why they dont want FFXIV to fail
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Unfortunately for SE, this is no longer the case. Fancy CGI is nice, but more and more people are looking at reviews and gameplay videos now. SE's business is hurting because their CGI couldn't hide the fact that XIII was sub-par and XIV was garbage. Look at the stock prices for the company - they've been going down since 2008. They bounced back after the crash of 2008/9, but they have steadily declined since then.

While I would agree with you that FFXIII was subpar it's also their 3rd best selling FF title, so from a financial status it was a success. FFXIII-2 was an abysmal failure.
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While I would agree with you that FFXIII was subpar it's also their 3rd best selling FF title, so from a financial status it was a success. FFXIII-2 was an abysmal failure.

I wouldn't be surprised if Final Fantasy XIII-2 was more profitable than Final Fantasy XIII, despite the much weaker sales. Final Fantasy XIII had been in development since 2004, where as XIII-2 had roughly a two year turnaround, purportedly re-using assets from XIII's development. The latter also had an extensive run of DLC.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Final Fantasy XIII-2 was more profitable than Final Fantasy XIII, despite the much weaker sales. Final Fantasy XIII had been in development since 2004, where as XIII-2 had roughly a two year turnaround, purportedly re-using assets from XIII's development. The latter also had an extensive run of DLC.

It's possible but it barely broke a half million sales in the US even with extensive advertising. Marketing can be very expensive.
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yeah , thats FF mmo , btw the most profitable FF of the series is...... Final Fantasy 11 ... thats why they dont want FFXIV to fail

You have to wonder though, with the amount of money invested into XIV, how long would it take for them to turn a profit? Will they ever make a profit? Or are they just trying to recoup as much of their losses as possible at this point?

Last I heard, XIV dethroned TOR as the most expensive MMO ever made due to this whole reboot thing. TOR at least broke a million subs at one point in its lifetime though, whereas XIV sold less than a million copies altogether (I think the figure is around ~650k) and was F2P for almost half a year because of how bad it was. When they finally started charging a subscription fee for the game, there were less than 50k people playing in total.

I can't imagine this game ever making a significant profit in the near or distant future, even if ARR does succeed.
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Wow such a beautiful trailer. What an amazing way to well, bring a game to an end through fiery brimstone.

Really hoping ARR will fix everything that made XIV unplayable. If they have the team from XI on it, then thats's already a good start.

It's certainly unique amongst nearly any game. Rarely is a game scrapped and remade on such a scale.
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OMG that was just epic!!!
 
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If they have the team from XI on it, then thats's already a good start.

Not necessarily.

Hiromichi Tanaka, the original producer for FFXI, was the original producer for FFXIV as well. In fact, the majority of the old FFXIV dev team consisted of people who had worked on FFXI at one time or another. Game still failed in every sense of the word.
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You have to wonder though, with the amount of money invested into XIV, how long would it take for them to turn a profit? Will they ever make a profit? Or are they just trying to recoup as much of their losses as possible at this point?

Last I heard, XIV dethroned TOR as the most expensive MMO ever made due to this whole reboot thing. TOR at least broke a million subs at one point in its lifetime though, whereas XIV sold less than a million copies altogether (I think the figure is around ~650k) and was F2P for almost half a year because of how bad it was. When they finally started charging a subscription fee for the game, there were less than 50k people playing in total.

I can't imagine this game ever making a significant profit in the near or distant future, even if ARR does succeed.

It'll definitely be an uphill battle, but Final Fantasy XI became the most profitable entry in the series with a peak subscription of 500,000 users. As far as I know they've been at less than half that for years now. Even if A Realm Reborn never manages to top XI, I think they can quite easily turn a profit by shipping a good game and supporting it.

Also, this rebuild seems like an honest effort to restore faith in the brand. I know folks didn't like Final Fantasy XIII all that much, but XIV was far more damaging in my eyes. I felt it was a genuinely poor game, where as Final Fantasy XIII was a decent title in its own right that just didn't meet fans' expectations and/or didn't jibe with their personal taste.
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