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Sure, except the start menu is the easiest and fastest way to launch programs without wasting space when you regularly have plenty of Windows open short of extending the start menu via eyefinity and the start screen makes it actively harder due to the exclusion of jump lists and the massive amounts of wasted space.
The quick launch toolbar is still there, you just have to add it as a new toolbar. A quick google search will give you the location. There is also a start menu tool-bar. What it gives is the "all programs" list part of the old start menu.

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I had an interest in programming once. Glad I decided not to pursue it after taking my first programming course in high school (Turing).

You guys have to be geniuses or have unshakable patience to be a programmer.

Yeeesh!
Turing != C++ != BASIC != VBASIC != Java.

There are many programming languages, there is bound to be a good one for you.
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Sure, except the start menu is the easiest and fastest way to launch programs without wasting space when you regularly have plenty of Windows open short of extending the start menu via eyefinity and the start screen makes it actively harder due to the exclusion of jump lists and the massive amounts of wasted space.
The quick launch toolbar is still there, you just have to add it as a new toolbar. A quick google search will give you the location. There is also a start menu tool-bar. What it gives is the "all programs" list part of the old start menu.


Finally, someone actually linked me to something to help me use Windows 8 without 3rd party tools. +rep
    
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I haven't noticed any performance difference in my games whatsoever.
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I had an interest in programming once. Glad I decided not to pursue it after taking my first programming course in high school (Turing).
You guys have to be geniuses or have unshakable patience to be a programmer.
Yeeesh!
It is a time consuming process regardless to what you learn. It usually takes at least 2 months to grasp the absolute basics of a particular language. From there on out its about staying persistent with coding projects. Else if you skip months at a time of not coding, you slowly start losing bits and pieces of your programming knowledge (you start getting rusty).
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Cleaned. If staff have to come in here and clean this thread again it's being locked permanently. The fact that a few individuals cannot have a discussion pertaining to programming without flinging insults is very sad. Now I don't know the next thing about programming, but maybe try politely informing one another, rather than waving epeens and insulting. Everyone's day is better if it goes that route.
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Because the Metro interface is ugly as sin and I'd have to go in and turn off a bunch of garbage I don't need (like location tracking). That's why I paid $50 more for Windows 7 Professional this past week instead of buying Windows 8. I'm sending a message to Microsoft ... I don't want a tablet interface on my non-touch screen desktop.
Before installing things I always go into the advanced options first. When you first start Win 8, you can choose quickly whether or not you want location tracking. Honestly, it's set up anyway to ASK you first before doing location tracking, which is pretty helpful for you with some apps like weather, shopping services, and whatever else.

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Because its different. Plain and simple, people hate change. I hated it too until I got it for $14.99 and decided to give it a shot. It's basically a faster version of Windows 7 with an added feature of the Metro start screen. If you don't like the start screen, don't use it, simple right.
Shhh. Dont tell anyone, the start screen is growing on me.
I love fast too. smile.gif

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Sure, except the start menu is the easiest and fastest way to launch programs without wasting space when you regularly have plenty of Windows open short of extending the start menu via eyefinity and the start screen makes it actively harder due to the exclusion of jump lists and the massive amounts of wasted space.
Nah, I'm just scared of change despite using Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8 fairly extensively. rolleyes.gif
I really liked the jumplists, but it was annoying to open them, and they didnt really save so much time anyway. You can say waste of space, although it is on a separate screen. But when I dont even have to look at my screen to click something. That means more efficient to me.

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I had an interest in programming once. Glad I decided not to pursue it after taking my first programming course in high school (Turing).
You guys have to be geniuses or have unshakable patience to be a programmer.
Yeeesh!
I did some basic stuff, and I think it's mostly patience and of course you have to be smart enough or comfortable with figuring out math or seeing things work, which is a lot like programming to me. Although I could be totally wrong here.

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The quick launch toolbar is still there, you just have to add it as a new toolbar. A quick google search will give you the location. There is also a start menu tool-bar. What it gives is the "all programs" list part of the old start menu.
Eugh why would you ever want the quick launch toolbar back? It's a pain to look for programs with that thing unless you have a program there you use often. Not to mention how damn long it takes to load for the first time you open it after starting windows.


The only thing that sort of bothers me is opening the last windows in Metro. I always have to look for the program I want, unlike on the bottom of the taskbar, I always knew where my program was. And it was even better with windows 7 when I could organize the position of the programs on the taskbar myself. Maybe I'll just get used to remembering what order I used the programs in. I havent thought of that.
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Eugh why would you ever want the quick launch toolbar back? It's a pain to look for programs with that thing unless you have a program there you use often. Not to mention how damn long it takes to load for the first time you open it after starting windows.
I love QL. I put it back in 7 as well. There is nothing to wait for. I have them all sitting right there as you see them in the screenshot. I try to keep my desktop clear except for current projects. If there is something I am not working on I have a "dumping ground" and "current projects folders" that are also linked to in the QL. As I add more shortcuts I expand it as necessary so that they all show. That isn't practical for the taskbar being on the bottom I know, but it works great for me with it on the side like that. And those are all programs I use often except for IE, I only use that for a specific purpose every couple of weeks. I realize most won't like the taskbar on the side like that, but with plenty of screen space I have room for it and it also gives me tons of space to have about 20 open apps on the taskbar.

I do know what you mean about quicklaunch taking a long time to open though. I had that happen to me before when I had a single screen and had the taskbar on the bottom with only a few icons showing. After it pissing me off for awhile I figured out it was the AV I was using at the time holding it up. I think it was back a four or five years ago when I was using the free Comodo suite. Got rid of Comodo and it stopped happening.
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Sure, except the start menu is the easiest and fastest way to launch programs without wasting space when you regularly have plenty of Windows open short of extending the start menu via eyefinity and the start screen makes it actively harder due to the exclusion of jump lists and the massive amounts of wasted space.
Nah, I'm just scared of change despite using Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8 fairly extensively. rolleyes.gif
I really liked the jumplists, but it was annoying to open them, and they didnt really save so much time anyway. You can say waste of space, although it is on a separate screen. But when I dont even have to look at my screen to click something. That means more efficient to me.

You...can do that on Windows 7. At least I can, and many people who are somewhat uncoordinated that I know of can.
    
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So you are able to prove that the dx 11.1 api wasn't re written, but you cant get Microsoft office to work?
He's suppose to be some developer from major software corporation or something. I find it hard to believe he can't tell C from C++, yet insists on knowing the internals of applications. Lets test him.

@47 Knucklehead: If you wanna prove me wrong here is a simple bit of code I made up. If you can explain to me what it does step by step, then ill give you benefit of the doubt when it comes to not knowing what you're talking about. Otherwise I think it will be hard for anyone to take you seriously.
Code:
00407B52 >   E9 F9090000    JMP 00408550

00408550     60             PUSHAD
00408551     68 71854000    PUSH 00408571
00408556     FF15 30C74000  CALL DWORD PTR DS:[<&KERNEL32.LoadLibraryA>]
0040855C     83F8 00        CMP EAX,0
0040855F     0F84 9B7ABFFF  JE 00000000
00408565     61             POPAD
00408566     55             PUSH EBP
00408567     8BEC           MOV EBP,ESP
00408569     6A FF          PUSH -1
0040856B    ^E9 E7F5FFFF    JMP 00407B57

00408571    57 61 72 6D 6F 6E 67 65 72 2E 64 6C 6C 00

Not many programmers have to deal with a disassembly, or writing in assembly. I wouldn't say this is a great test. Just as an example, I haven't had to touch assembly once since college. I could probably pass your test here, but still, code in C or C++ might've been a better test.
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