Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [HWI] Gaming in Windows 8 vs Windows 7: what's the difference in performance?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[HWI] Gaming in Windows 8 vs Windows 7: what's the difference in performance? - Page 8

post #71 of 185
11/11/12 at 11:07pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

And what makes you so sure that a minor update to DirectX will suddenly get the attention of everybody ? Not even DirectX 10, let alone DirectX 10.1 did. Now we have fairly powerful DirectX 11 cards in people's systems - HD 5000 and HD 6000 and GTX 400 and GTX 500 series, with Windows Vista (with the Platform Update installed) and Windows 7 installed, and suddenly a minor update to DirectX 11 is going to become the norm ? No, it won't.
That is DirectX 10, everyone can make an assumption for DirectX 11.1. No, I'm not being disagreed with you but I'm just thinking that DirectX 11.1 will be popular in the future for gaming. biggrin.gif
Reply
Reply
post #72 of 185
11/12/12 at 12:12am
Quote:
Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

A good and fair comparison to determine which OS alt tabs in and out of games faster would be turning Aero off in Windows 7. As far as I know Aero is turned off when fullscreen games are being run, and it has to be turned back on when you alt-tab to the desktop. Turning it off will most probably make Windows 7 faster.
Also, it would be interesting to determine how much the absence of Aero in Windows 8 contributes to the lower memory usage of Windows 8.
And what makes you so sure that a minor update to DirectX will suddenly get the attention of everybody ? Not even DirectX 10, let alone DirectX 10.1 did. Now we have fairly powerful DirectX 11 cards in people's systems - HD 5000 and HD 6000 and GTX 400 and GTX 500 series, with Windows Vista (with the Platform Update installed) and Windows 7 installed, and suddenly a minor update to DirectX 11 is going to become the norm ? No, it won't.
Microsoft's main goal should be to convince people to get off from Windows XP, and that means get people to use any newer Windows versions. Ostracising people by forcing them to upgrade to an OS that has the exclusive of a minor update to DirectX in this economically troubled climate would not be a wise decision at all.
Obviously clueless, if you're not a game developer then try not shedding light on the subject. You're only making yourself look foolish. DirectX 11.1 was not a little update.
Main Rig
(14 items)
 
Linux Rig
(10 items)
  		 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II x3 450 Biostar A880GZ PowerColor HD 4650 DDR3 4GB Samsung MV-3V2G3/US 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 830 128GB (Pending) ASUS DRW-24B1ST Stock Windows 8 Enterprise x64 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech Classic 200 300w Hipro a1410n HP 1000 DPI 
Mouse PadAudio
Standard Realtek ALC662 
View all
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Sempron 3000+ ASUS A7V8X-LA VIA KM400A 2GB DDR 333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
40GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Samsung Writemaster Stock ASUS Ubuntu 12.04 
PowerCase
Hipro 250W SR1500NX 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Main Rig
(14 items)
 
Linux Rig
(10 items)
  		 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II x3 450 Biostar A880GZ PowerColor HD 4650 DDR3 4GB Samsung MV-3V2G3/US 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 830 128GB (Pending) ASUS DRW-24B1ST Stock Windows 8 Enterprise x64 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech Classic 200 300w Hipro a1410n HP 1000 DPI 
Mouse PadAudio
Standard Realtek ALC662 
View all
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Sempron 3000+ ASUS A7V8X-LA VIA KM400A 2GB DDR 333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
40GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Samsung Writemaster Stock ASUS Ubuntu 12.04 
PowerCase
Hipro 250W SR1500NX 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #73 of 185
11/12/12 at 1:07am
Quote:
Originally Posted by dioxholster View Post

windows 8 is like the hot girlfriend who decided to get plastic surgery.

A beautiful girl who ruins her face by taking a knife to something gorgeous and totally ruining it by looking like a 25 year old monkey or Michael Jackson.

I installed Win 8 on my laptop and ran EVE Online. I restored Win 7 and I saw absolutely no improvements whatsoever. It wasn't even smoother, that is totally placebo.

Also my Win 7 boots up in less than 10 seconds, simply because I don't shut it down, I put it to sleep.
Edited by Liranan - 11/12/12 at 1:10am
The girlfriend.
(17 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
955BE @ 3.5 Crosshair V 6870 Twin Frozr 16GB HyperX DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 120 (non-Pro) Hitachi 1TB Western Digital Green 1TB Seagate 2TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
BenQ DVD RW H70 Win 7 Ultimate/Mint 2253BW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G15 Blue Antec TP 650 Coolermaster G400 
Mouse Pad
Tai-Chi 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
The girlfriend.
(17 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
955BE @ 3.5 Crosshair V 6870 Twin Frozr 16GB HyperX DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 120 (non-Pro) Hitachi 1TB Western Digital Green 1TB Seagate 2TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
BenQ DVD RW H70 Win 7 Ultimate/Mint 2253BW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G15 Blue Antec TP 650 Coolermaster G400 
Mouse Pad
Tai-Chi 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #74 of 185
11/12/12 at 2:31am
I can run windows 8 the full os off a 32 gig usb thumb drive that isn't Microsoft certified and install fancy cache and have ssd like speeds and take the system and boot from any computer with the same os and thumbdrive its pretty super ultra mega portable and this is a fully working os not a stripped down os I cant do that with windows 7, its a really nice feature biggrin.gif im writing a guide on it if anyone wants preview proof let me know lol its a $20 hp v125w 32 gig thumb drive take that Kingston and super talent =P biggrin.gif
Kalistoval
(22 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8150 Zambezi @ 4.6 ghz  ASUS Crosshair V XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB  Samsung Green (m379b5273dh0-yk0) 2x4GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung Green (m379b5273dh0-yk0) 2x4GB OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G  Caviar Green 2TB IntelliPower SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" I... ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS 
Optical DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell E173FP SlimStar 8000 2.4GHz Wireless Keyboard  Corsair CX600 Builder Series 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec Solo SlimStar 8000 2.4GHz Wireless Mouse Supermat Mousepad stock 
OtherOther
Hawking Hi-Gain Wireless-G USB Dish (HWU9DD) 2-port SATA 6.0Gb/s PCIe Controller Card 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Kalistoval
(22 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8150 Zambezi @ 4.6 ghz  ASUS Crosshair V XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB  Samsung Green (m379b5273dh0-yk0) 2x4GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung Green (m379b5273dh0-yk0) 2x4GB OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G  Caviar Green 2TB IntelliPower SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" I... ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS 
Optical DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell E173FP SlimStar 8000 2.4GHz Wireless Keyboard  Corsair CX600 Builder Series 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec Solo SlimStar 8000 2.4GHz Wireless Mouse Supermat Mousepad stock 
OtherOther
Hawking Hi-Gain Wireless-G USB Dish (HWU9DD) 2-port SATA 6.0Gb/s PCIe Controller Card 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #75 of 185
11/12/12 at 3:11am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalistoval View Post

I can run windows 8 the full os off a 32 gig usb thumb drive that isn't Microsoft certified and install fancy cache and have ssd like speeds and take the system and boot from any computer with the same os and thumbdrive its pretty super ultra mega portable and this is a fully working os not a stripped down os I cant do that with windows 7, its a really nice feature biggrin.gif im writing a guide on it if anyone wants preview proof let me know lol its a $20 hp v125w 32 gig thumb drive take that Kingston and super talent =P biggrin.gif

 

I was just reading about this about an hour ago. xD

 

How long does bootup and starting programs? Does it lag at all? Seems like running a full blown OS off of a USB 2.0 flash drive would be slow.

My Baby
(20 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500K 4.8 GHz @ 1.375v MSI Z68MA-ED55 (B3) MSI R6950 TFII 2GB 8GB Samsung 30nm 2133 9-10-10-21-2T @ 1.512v 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M4 64GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB ASUS DVD Burner Noctua NH-D14 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
ARCTIC Accelero Twin Turbo II Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ASUS VS238H-P NEC 195VX 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RK-9000BRI (MX Brown) Rosewill FORTRESS-450 Fractal Designs Arc Mini Logitech G400 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
Steelseries QCK Mass Logitech X-540 Koss PortaPro Intel EXPI9301CT NIC 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
My Baby
(20 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500K 4.8 GHz @ 1.375v MSI Z68MA-ED55 (B3) MSI R6950 TFII 2GB 8GB Samsung 30nm 2133 9-10-10-21-2T @ 1.512v 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M4 64GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB ASUS DVD Burner Noctua NH-D14 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
ARCTIC Accelero Twin Turbo II Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ASUS VS238H-P NEC 195VX 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rosewill RK-9000BRI (MX Brown) Rosewill FORTRESS-450 Fractal Designs Arc Mini Logitech G400 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
Steelseries QCK Mass Logitech X-540 Koss PortaPro Intel EXPI9301CT NIC 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #76 of 185
11/12/12 at 3:14am
once u install fanceycache everything loads fast without fanceycache the os would be as slow as vista haha
boot time after fancy cache installed is as fast as a normal ssd because it kicks right in when the os loads up
of course u have to make some adjustments to fancy cache but the point is usb drives cheap portable and the software is free I reckon that's a good price/performance and after you install programs they stay on the usb and will work on any other computer i'm on the usb os as im typing been running it for about a week now on 8 different systems ranging from intel and amd desktops and laptops old and new u could practically take it any ware with games installed!!!
Edited by Kalistoval - 11/12/12 at 3:21am
Kalistoval
(22 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8150 Zambezi @ 4.6 ghz  ASUS Crosshair V XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB  Samsung Green (m379b5273dh0-yk0) 2x4GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung Green (m379b5273dh0-yk0) 2x4GB OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G  Caviar Green 2TB IntelliPower SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" I... ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS 
Optical DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell E173FP SlimStar 8000 2.4GHz Wireless Keyboard  Corsair CX600 Builder Series 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec Solo SlimStar 8000 2.4GHz Wireless Mouse Supermat Mousepad stock 
OtherOther
Hawking Hi-Gain Wireless-G USB Dish (HWU9DD) 2-port SATA 6.0Gb/s PCIe Controller Card 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Kalistoval
(22 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8150 Zambezi @ 4.6 ghz  ASUS Crosshair V XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB  Samsung Green (m379b5273dh0-yk0) 2x4GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung Green (m379b5273dh0-yk0) 2x4GB OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G  Caviar Green 2TB IntelliPower SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" I... ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS 
Optical DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Noctua NH-D14 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell E173FP SlimStar 8000 2.4GHz Wireless Keyboard  Corsair CX600 Builder Series 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec Solo SlimStar 8000 2.4GHz Wireless Mouse Supermat Mousepad stock 
OtherOther
Hawking Hi-Gain Wireless-G USB Dish (HWU9DD) 2-port SATA 6.0Gb/s PCIe Controller Card 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #77 of 185
11/12/12 at 3:25am
Windows 8 performance increase looks great for most games @ 5760x1080 thumb.gif
3D Surround / 2D Surround 120hz
(10 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel I7 3930k 5GHZ @1.40v Asrock Extreme 11 EVGA GTX TITAN SC SLI Ripjaws Z 16GB 2133 CL11 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
[x2] SSD Samsung 830 126GB RAID0 Samsung Spinpoint 2TB XSPC Raystorm Block, RX360, D5 [x3] ASUS VG278H 27" 3D Monitors 
PowerCase
EVGA Classified SR-2 1200w CM HAF X 942 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
3D Surround / 2D Surround 120hz
(10 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel I7 3930k 5GHZ @1.40v Asrock Extreme 11 EVGA GTX TITAN SC SLI Ripjaws Z 16GB 2133 CL11 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
[x2] SSD Samsung 830 126GB RAID0 Samsung Spinpoint 2TB XSPC Raystorm Block, RX360, D5 [x3] ASUS VG278H 27" 3D Monitors 
PowerCase
EVGA Classified SR-2 1200w CM HAF X 942 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #78 of 185
11/12/12 at 6:53am
  • Joined: Mar 2008
  • Location: England
  • Posts: 4,928
  • Rep: 326 (Unique: 251)
  • Reviews: 1
  • Trader Rating: 27
  • Folding Team Rank: 752
  •  
    Name Team Rank Points / May Work Units / May
    geforcegts 752 2,870,709 / 0 2,499 / 0
    A member of the Overclock.net HWBot Team    
  • Select All Posts By This User
Quote:
Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

A good and fair comparison to determine which OS alt tabs in and out of games faster would be turning Aero off in Windows 7. As far as I know Aero is turned off when fullscreen games are being run, and it has to be turned back on when you alt-tab to the desktop. Turning it off will most probably make Windows 7 faster.

I always had aero disabled in windows 7, it screwed with some of my games such as skyrim and alt tabbing, also messed with UAC2 anti cheat and produced blank screenshots so I had it disabled always wink.gif
:l
(16 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570K 4.4ghz 1.280v Asus P8P67 Evo EVGA GTX 660 Ti 3gb SC+ Samsung 2x4gb 2000mhz 9-10-10-28 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial C300 64gb WD6401AALS Thermalright Silver Arrow Windows 8 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG W2361V Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (blues) Corsair HX1000 Silverstone TJ07-BW 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G9x Razer ExactMat Sennheiser HD555 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
:l
(16 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570K 4.4ghz 1.280v Asus P8P67 Evo EVGA GTX 660 Ti 3gb SC+ Samsung 2x4gb 2000mhz 9-10-10-28 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial C300 64gb WD6401AALS Thermalright Silver Arrow Windows 8 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG W2361V Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (blues) Corsair HX1000 Silverstone TJ07-BW 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G9x Razer ExactMat Sennheiser HD555 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #79 of 185
11/12/12 at 7:00am
I'll stick with Win7. Nice job on the info.
Reply
Reply
post #80 of 185
11/12/12 at 7:15am
I like the conclusion, simple, it's the same biggrin.gif
Intel Evilnow
(15 items)
 
AMD Oldnews (x6 1090t + K9A2 Platinum)
(14 items)
  		 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k 4ghz @ AutoVoltage Asus P8P67 Evo (bios 3207) Sapphire HD6850 1GB (835/1100) G.Skill RipjawsX 2x2gb 1866mhz 8-9-8-24-1n @ 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
WD5000AAKX-001CA0 WD5001AALS-00L3B2 (Now External) WD20EARS ASUS DRW-1814BLT 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Noctua NH-u12p SE2 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Asus VH242H Wobbly Stand :) Microsoft Ergo 4000 
PowerCaseMouse
Enermax Infiniti 650 (28a,28a,30a) Cooler Master haf 912 Advanced A4tech x7 F3 
View all
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x6 1090t BE 3.6/4.0 Turbo@def.volt MSI K9A2 Platinum v1 Sapphire HD6850 1GB 850/1100@def.volt Kingston 2x2gb Hyperx 1066 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Western Digital WD5001AALS Seagate Barracuda ST3250410AS Asus DRW-1814BLT Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH242H 23.6" Wobbly Stand :D Microsoft Ergo 4000 Enermax Infiniti 650w (28a,28a,30a) Thermaltake Kandalf SuperTower 
Mouse
A4 tech Swop-3 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Intel Evilnow
(15 items)
 
AMD Oldnews (x6 1090t + K9A2 Platinum)
(14 items)
  		 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k 4ghz @ AutoVoltage Asus P8P67 Evo (bios 3207) Sapphire HD6850 1GB (835/1100) G.Skill RipjawsX 2x2gb 1866mhz 8-9-8-24-1n @ 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
WD5000AAKX-001CA0 WD5001AALS-00L3B2 (Now External) WD20EARS ASUS DRW-1814BLT 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Noctua NH-u12p SE2 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Asus VH242H Wobbly Stand :) Microsoft Ergo 4000 
PowerCaseMouse
Enermax Infiniti 650 (28a,28a,30a) Cooler Master haf 912 Advanced A4tech x7 F3 
View all
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x6 1090t BE 3.6/4.0 Turbo@def.volt MSI K9A2 Platinum v1 Sapphire HD6850 1GB 850/1100@def.volt Kingston 2x2gb Hyperx 1066 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Western Digital WD5001AALS Seagate Barracuda ST3250410AS Asus DRW-1814BLT Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VH242H 23.6" Wobbly Stand :D Microsoft Ergo 4000 Enermax Infiniti 650w (28a,28a,30a) Thermaltake Kandalf SuperTower 
Mouse
A4 tech Swop-3 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Software News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [HWI] Gaming in Windows 8 vs Windows 7: what's the difference in performance?