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post #221 of 990
WOW! thumb.gif I'm jealous
post #222 of 990
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Originally Posted by IT Diva View Post

I swear if you just leave them alone unchaperoned, the little buggers breed on their own . . . . biggrin.gif
The best part is that now I have the parts I need to join the rads, and finish the chassis stretch.
Then the next pair of rads and work on the side panel window.
Woooo Hoooooo,
Darlene

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This is an insane build. I *LOVE* it.

More pictures ... MORE, MORE, MORE!
post #223 of 990
Darlene, when I look at that frontal/side shot a few pages back, I'm reminded of a sleek train like the pic someone posted suggesting color schemes.
So I have to agree with him somewhat, a sleek high speed monster bullet train with a stripe to match. smile.gif
That's going to be one heavy, long sucker, but I know you have those carts so hoping you don't wreck your back moving it!

Gull wing door. Hmmmmm. biggrin.gif
post #224 of 990
Gotta love the versatility of the airplex system! This is such a fun build to follow! I have 1x240mm and 1x360mm dual loop Airplex in aluminium and they cool an overclocked 2600k, Sabertooth P67 VRM, RAM and GPU(GTX680), at max 40 degrees celsius. The copper ones you have cool about 40% better than the aluminum ones after what I have seen.

In other words. You have some serious cooling power!
post #225 of 990
My phantom 820 build log is up yay just need the case but for now I'm moding the small things like the PSU and optical drive
 
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um,,, where's the link to your log ? ... lol .... linklog link in log .. ??!! biggrin.gif
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post #227 of 990
Will do http://www.overclock.net/t/1340550/build-log-the-old-movie#post_18876065

Also it diva how effective are those rads do they cool very nice and are you connecting it to your overkill cooling solution for even more overkill
 
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post #228 of 990
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Will do http://www.overclock.net/t/1340550/build-log-the-old-movie#post_18876065
Also it diva how effective are those rads do they cool very nice and are you connecting it to your overkill cooling solution for even more overkill

In reverse order;

The external cooling module essentially stays with the switch 810 build.

The 810 has limited internal rad space, and when running tri or quad GPU's with an i7 E, it just isn't enough, especially with substantial overclocks and hi ambient temps.


The concept behind my stretched case format is to make enough internal space for sufficient "raddage" to run quad GPU's and keep all the cooling onboard, and in a format that doesn't resemble a mini fridge on the floor.


The rads are somewhat of an unknown.

The only testing on them, raves about them, but it also seems to be rather suspect.

Martin didn't find them any better than anything else, in fact, rather mediocre, but best as I recall, that was an aluminum fin one. He also remarked at how they are particularly restrictive, probably because of the way the delrin ends have machined passages to groups of tubes.

Martin tests with a fixed pump rate, so that a particularly restrictive rad would get significantly less flowrate than a much less restrictive one.

He tests that way so that you get the best idea of how the rad being tested would work in the average system.

The probability is, that because those rads have round tubes, they'll need a very high flow rate to maintain turbulent flow in the tubes to get the efficiency that the size and copper fin pack can deliver, which is going to require a LOT of pump to overcome the restrictive end caps.

I think to effectively use these rads, you have to design the system specifically for them.

To be sure I'm leveraging all the performance I can get from the rads, each of the 3 loops will have a dual D5 pump setup with a Koolance flow meter and temp sensors:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11257/ex-pmp-103/Bitspower_Dual_D5_Mod_Top_Extreme_-_Acrylic_UV_Red_Version_BP-2D5TOPAC-UVRD.html?tl=g30c107s1805

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13279/koo-292/Koolance_INS-FM18_Coolant_Flow_Meter_.html

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13163/ex-tub-891/Phobya_G14_Inline_Temp_Sensor_Coupler_-_2-Pin_71170.html?tl=g30c229s579

I'll be using the new PWM speed controlled D5's, so that I can analyse the flow rate to temp delta to really see how well the rads work, and if there's a flowrate threshold above which you have dramatically better performance than below it.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17549/ex-pmp-214/Swiftech_MCP655-PWM_12v_Water_Pump_Module_-_PWM_Enabled_Single_Version.html?tl=g30c107s1802

Here's a couple pics of the rad with its support rails mounted on the bottom panels, ready to have the center section cut from the third case and fitted.

This is the exact length and placement that it will be, and as you can see, the end pieces on the rad come pretty close to the PSU and front of the chassis . . . not the rad you'd want for a tight space

It does, however sit nicely on 2 full base assemblies.


Darlene



post #229 of 990
This build just gets better with every up date.

I do have to ask;

Do you do much planning and research before embarking on your project builds?

and

How much do you change from your original design / concept as you progress on your builds?
post #230 of 990
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This build just gets better with every up date.
I do have to ask;
Do you do much planning and research before embarking on your project builds?
and
How much do you change from your original design / concept as you progress on your builds?


Good questions, in short;

To the first, a whole friggin' lot. . . . .

I make great effort to be sure all possible contingencies are covered since there's just no way to know everything you need to before you actually start working on something and as much research as possible can sure help keep you from going down the wrong rabbit hole.

Just knowing what it is that you're going to have to take into consideration in your planning is important in itself for bigger builds, with significant overclocks, and more than 2 GPUs.



To the second, it depends on how new the case is and how much detail is available about it. . . . . And how radical the mod concept is . . .

The 820 being really new, has only started to get some build logs up with pics and information that can give a builder some idea of what can and can't be done. . . . None in time to be of much assistance for me.

Because of the lack of mod relevant information early on in the release of a new case, it's reasonable to expect more departure from an original plan, as that plan has to be regarded as tentative in the first place.

With builds like this one, where it's virtually uncharted territory, and with a newly released case at that, . . . . It's almost a "keep the vision in mind and solve the engineering challenges sequentially as they present themselves".
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