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Speaking of welding, what's the best way to go about learning how to weld as an adult? Are there classes somewhere? I have no idea.
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Where's the goods? No infomercials in this log right? wink.gif
Think I'll stick around to see how this goes.

Hi Mike, Welcome aboard.

#1 . . . . In Transit, . . . I would assume . . . . . . .

MY CC's "available credit" had dropped significantly when I checked Tuesday, and I have an Order Confirmation email.


#2 . . . . No Infomercials here . . . . . .

I choose and buy products based on their track record of quality, suitability to the concept of the build, and my experiences with them. If one brand has some unique feature/characteristic over another brand that makes it more specifically suitable, I'll make that known.


If I add a video, it will be to show how I solved a logistical issue, or demonstrate how something works . . . . . . . . Think Gull Wing side panel like a gull wing door on a stretched limo.


Shipping things here can be an adventure, . . . Long story short, USPS priority Mail is the only practical way to ship anything here. . . . And with that goes the timeframe that you have to accept.

Realistically, if NZXT got everything picked up last Tuesday, I should have "the goods" in time for next weekend . . . . . But them there's Thanksgiving, and you know what holidays do to shipping schedules.


Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 11/17/12 at 5:54am
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Subbed for sure! Girls that can weld rock wink.gif

I wish I could weld, competantly at least, I'm just a beginner at best.

That's why I take things I need welded to an expert. . . . I just get everything cut, fitted, prepped and clamped. . . Then Warren does his magic with the tig rig.
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Speaking of welding, what's the best way to go about learning how to weld as an adult? Are there classes somewhere? I have no idea.


That likely depends on where you live, and what kind of adult education is available.

It would also depend a lot on what your welding needs are, and what type of welding you want to learn. . . . . stick, . . . flux rod, . . . spool gun, . . . tig . . . ferrous / non ferrous

Some places have pretty good adult vocational training, but I guess a lot of them have been hit with budget cutting in recent years.

The good news, is that with advances in solid state devices, inverter type welding units have gotten cheaper and more reliable.

There are plenty of videos to use to get started, and then practice, practice, practice, and then practice some more.


I was actually thinking seriously about taking the plunge, and going with this one so I could have things tacked up and fitted before going to Warren's shop, and being able to handle the small things in-house:

http://www.eastwood.com/review/product/list/id/5572/

But then I got to adding up the total cost to get welding, and for about the same final cost, counting shipping, consumables, and argon tank rental etc. . . .

I can almost get all of the major pump related parts of my loops:

(So it's kind of a no-brainer if I want to get this build moving once I have things to work with)

3 of these:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11257/ex-pmp-103/Bitspower_Dual_D5_Mod_Top_Extreme_-_Acrylic_UV_Red_Version_BP-2D5TOPAC-UVRD.html


and 6 of these:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16935/ex-res-418/Bitspower_Water_Tank_Z-Multi_150_Inline_Reservoir_-_Clear_BP-WTZM150AC-CL.html?tl=g30c97s165


and 6 of these:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17549/ex-pmp-214/Swiftech_MCP655-PWM_12v_Water_Pump_Module_-_PWM_Enabled_Single_Version.html


and 6 of these:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16582/ex-pmp-200/Bitspower_D5_MCP655_Pump_Mod_Kit_-_Red_BP-D5MA-RD.html


Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 11/25/12 at 6:06am
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Whoa eek.gif 6 pumps? Are you just picking up extra or are they all for this build?
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Whoa eek.gif 6 pumps? Are you just picking up extra or are they all for this build?


The stretch, as it's currently anticipated, should give me an additional 11" to 12" of space between the front edge of the motherboard, and the back of the optical drive bay cage.


That's a lot of room to make use of, and I want to make it count, both aesthetically, and in "awesomeness factor".

My current plan is to put 3 of the dual tops side by side at a 45 degree angle to the back of the case and mounted under a pice of 3/4" acrylic, so that all 6 pumps and res's are visible, appearing as 3 pairs. I'm looking at the 45 degree mounting format so that there's more "front to back" perspective, and to allow more room between them for piping runs.

It also puts all 3 pump pairs together as a single assembly, which makes mounting easier, and adds continuity to the aesthetics.


On top of the 3/4" piece of acrylic, I'll mount 6 of the resevoirs I linked to, in a 3 pairs configuration , centering each over the pump below it.

The res's have 4 mounting holes that line up with holes in the pump tops, so what I'll do is to drill thru the 3/4" piece, so that the res's mounting base sandwichs the 3/4" piece between it and the pump top.

Obviously, I'll need to drill passages from where the rear res mounts on the 3/4" piece to connect it up with the front res that sits directly over the inlet to the front pump, as the pump top can only be fed thru a single port.

I'll also need to spot face and add sealing o-rings where necessary, and relieve the underside of the 3/4" acrylic piece for the pump top's top mounted outlet plug, since I'll have to use the side outlet.


I'm looking at 3 pump pairs, because I'm planning a triple loop setup.

Again, it's still in the formative planning stage, but I'm working at getting an XT45 560 in the top and bottom, each to cool a pair of GPUs, and a XT45 420, or 280 stacked above the bottom one for the mobo / CPU loop.


I really do want to take this build where no build has gone belore biggrin.gif


Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 11/17/12 at 9:16am
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3/4" Acrylic is expensive... This build really is ridiculous just for the sake of being so... biggrin.gif

What are you going to do with it when it's done?
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3/4" Acrylic is expensive... This build really is ridiculous just for the sake of being so... biggrin.gif
What are you going to do with it when it's done?



I have a piece of 3/4" (actually there is no 3/4", it's .708") in my acrylic scraps box that's probably big enough for what I need, but a 12" by 12" or 12" by 24" piece wouldn't kill me to have to buy one if not.

This is OCN, what's your point, . . . . . wheee.gif

Actually, I don't see where this build is any more ridiculous than some of the big box CL / DD / MM builds with pedestals and top boxes and such. At least this isn't so top heavy or tipsy that it has to sit on the floor.

The best part to me is that I get to mold and shape my own creation that reflects my personal styling choices.


Enjoy it and plan the next project . . .

Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 11/17/12 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by Caruban View Post

3/4" Acrylic is expensive... This build really is ridiculous just for the sake of being so... biggrin.gif
What are you going to do with it when it's done?



I have a piece of 3/4" (actually there is no 3/4", it's .708") in my acrylic scraps box that's probably big enough for what I need, but a 12" by 12" or 12" by 24" piece wouldn't kill me to have to buy one if not.

This is OCN, what's your point, . . . . . wheee.gif

Actually, I don't see where this build is any more ridiculous than some of the big box CL / DD / MM builds with pedestals and top boxes and such. At least this isn't so top heavy or tipsy that it has to sit on the floor.

The best part to me is that I get to mold and shape my own creation that reflects my personal styling choices.


Enjoy it and plan the next project . . .

Darlene

Precisely. Nothing beats that. thumb.gif Subbed!
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A little Thanksgiving update:


I was hoping my new Phantom 820's might be here by now, but it looks like I have to wait a bit longer. sadsmiley.gif

I did get tracking numbers though, which while helpfull, also let me know that nothing had shipped untill this week, so late next week is the earliest arrival time I can hope for.


Well, at least I know they are on their way . . . . smile.gif

And can be here in time for when I have a vacation week coming.

I was planning to use that time to measure twice, cut once, and be able to get to the machine shop to have the welding done.



Of course the problem with having to wait, is:

1 - that another paycheck comes along, opening up possibilities of yet additional madness, and

2 - that my imagination and overkill gene start pumping steroids like a sports celebrity, and the result can be . . . . . . mmmmm, . . . exotic . . . errrr, better make that . . . almost scarey


I'm wondering at the moment, just how much stretch is, at least sort of realistically, possible . . . .


My original plan was to use 2 cases to get an additional 280 mm of length to allow using 560's in place of 280's;

Front lower portion of one case cut just behind the rad mounting, for the front portion . . .

Rear lower portion of a second case cut just in front of the rad mounting for the rear portion . . . . . .

and adding then together, . . . .

With a similar approach taken with the top panel, cutting the rear portion right in front of the 280 rad mount, and the front portion right behind the 280 mount.

That way the mobo tray stays properly positioned.

The more I thought about it, the more I wondered if I took just the 280 mm rad mount portion, from both the top and bottom, of a third case, and put it between the original plan's front and rear 280 sections, then I could have on board 840's on top and bottom.

I got to looking at these stainless steel and copper beauties, and as they are modular and that two 420's can join end to end into an 840, my overheated imagination has gone into overdrive:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15679/ex-rad-385/Aquacomputer_Airplex_Modularity_System_420_Radiator_-_Copper_Fins_-_Dual_Circuit_33042.html?tl=g30c95s931

The connecting block:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14282/ex-rad-309/Aquacomputer_Airplex_Modularity_System_Serial_Connector_Adapter_-_Acetal_33502.html?tl=g30c95s1554#blank

The dual circuit feature allows the rad to be split 30 / 70 between 2 seperate loops, or combined.

Dual circuit on the bottom with the room for push-pull fans would put the mobo/cpu on the 30% circuit, and 2 of the gpus on the 70% circuit.

Combined, or single circuit on the top, where there's only room for one set of fans, would handle the second pair of gpus.

The real trick is going to be handling the top plastic parts' stretch so it looks like a stretched version of the original.


Somebody quick, . . . . talk me out of, . . . or into , this insanity . . . where's the Xanax when you need it wheee.gifwheee.gifwheee.gif


Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 11/22/12 at 9:42am
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A little Thanksgiving update:
I was hoping my new Phantom 820's might be here by now, but it looks like I have to wait a bit longer. sadsmiley.gif
I did get tracking numbers though, which while helpfull, also let me know that nothing had shipped untill this week, so late next week is the earliest arrival time I can hope for.
Well, at least I know they are on their way . . . . smile.gif
And can be here in time for when I have a vacation week coming.
I was planning to use that time to measure twice, cut once, and be able to get to the machine shop to have the welding done.
Of course the problem with having to wait, is:
1 - that another paycheck comes along, opening up possibilities of yet additional madness, and
2 - that my imagination and overkill gene start pumping steroids like a sports celebrity, and the result can be . . . . . . mmmmm, . . . exotic . . . errrr, better make that . . . almost scarey
I'm wondering at the moment, just how much stretch is, at least sort of realistically, possible . . . .
My original plan was to use 2 cases to get an additional 280 mm of length to allow using 560's in place of 280's;
Front lower portion of one case cut just behind the rad mounting, for the front portion . . .
Rear lower portion of a second case cut just in front of the rad mounting for the rear portion . . . . . .
and adding then together, . . . .
With a similar approach taken with the top panel, cutting the rear portion right in front of the 280 rad mount, and the front portion right behind the 280 mount.
That way the mobo tray stays properly positioned.
The more I thought about it, the more I wondered if I took just the 280 mm rad mount portion, from both the top and bottom, of a third case, and put it between the original plan's front and rear 280 sections, then I could have on board 840's on top and bottom.
I got to looking at these stainless steel and copper beauties, and as they are modular and that two 420's can join end to end into an 840, my overheated imagination has gone into overdrive:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15679/ex-rad-385/Aquacomputer_Airplex_Modularity_System_420_Radiator_-_Copper_Fins_-_Dual_Circuit_33042.html?tl=g30c95s931
The connecting block:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14282/ex-rad-309/Aquacomputer_Airplex_Modularity_System_Serial_Connector_Adapter_-_Acetal_33502.html?tl=g30c95s1554#blank
The dual circuit feature allows the rad to be split 30 / 70 between 2 seperate loops, or combined.
Dual circuit on the bottom with the room for push-pull fans would put the mobo/cpu on the 30% circuit, and 2 of the gpus on the 70% circuit.
Combined, or single circuit on the top, where there's only room for one set of fans, would handle the second pair of gpus.
The real trick is going to be handling the top plastic parts' stretch so it looks like a stretched version of the original.
Somebody quick, . . . . talk me out of, . . . or into , this insanity . . . where's the Xanax when you need it wheee.gifwheee.gifwheee.gif
Darlene

Woah that's probably gonna be the most epic WC rad setup I've ever heard of. By all means please DO IT!!!!!Snorkle.gif

Just stumbled upon this thread looking for a 820 club as I'm getting mines next week god willing for my 1st WC build wheee.gif....I'm really looking fwd to seeing how this works out with the joining of the chassis'. Good luck thumb.gif
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